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<blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 3313894" data-attributes="member: 12032">Hello all,I'm currently running an adventure which involves a fair number of dragons. The party has happened upon a spell, &quot;downdraft&quot; in the spell compendium.&nbsp; 3rd level cleric (and druid?).In any case, if cast on a dragon it _will_ drop the dragon 50' (baring spell resistance), and maybe 100'.&nbsp; This means the close-combat folks can rapidly close, which makes the whole thing a LOT simpler.&nbsp; It's not that the spell is overpowered per se, it's just that the cleric, by RAW, being able to cast new spells like this, becomes MUCH more effective.&nbsp; In the current fight, it wasn't horrible.&nbsp; The tanks all closed and then the dragon withdrew, drawing a single AoO. The CR 5 dragon took ~60 points of damage in that time, but lived.&nbsp; But next time, someone is going to use a net, lasso, or something to keep it still.&nbsp; And while hand-to-hand with a dragon isn't fun, the party would likely kill it after only taking 1 full attack, *maybe* two.Just something that I thought I'd share....Mark</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brehobit, post: 3313894, member: 12032"] Hello all, I'm currently running an adventure which involves a fair number of dragons. The party has happened upon a spell, "downdraft" in the spell compendium. 3rd level cleric (and druid?). In any case, if cast on a dragon it _will_ drop the dragon 50' (baring spell resistance), and maybe 100'. This means the close-combat folks can rapidly close, which makes the whole thing a LOT simpler. It's not that the spell is overpowered per se, it's just that the cleric, by RAW, being able to cast new spells like this, becomes MUCH more effective. In the current fight, it wasn't horrible. The tanks all closed and then the dragon withdrew, drawing a single AoO. The CR 5 dragon took ~60 points of damage in that time, but lived. But next time, someone is going to use a net, lasso, or something to keep it still. And while hand-to-hand with a dragon isn't fun, the party would likely kill it after only taking 1 full attack, *maybe* two. Just something that I thought I'd share.... Mark [/QUOTE]

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