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<blockquote data-quote="Wraith-Hunter" data-source="post: 3314009" data-attributes="member: 48298">Just another reason why I hate clerics. Any new book comes out they automagically get all the new spells. Not to mention all the other goodies.Frankly if I run a game again, all healing spells will be universal, so you don't NEED a cleric in a group if nobody wants to play them. They can still keep their undead turning and such, but the problem as I see it is they were made the be the most powerfull character to entice people who don't want to play a devout character to play one. Simply because every group needs a medic.That is the real problem they could tone down clerics ALOT and people who like them would still play them, though they would not be required in a group, and the people who like playing the most powerfull character would be something else. Better for all.In regards to killing dragons, controling the enviornment is always the best way in my experience but not always easy to do. There is alot of good stuff in the Dragonomicon though. Lots of it is not as usefull for general purpose stuff but great for campaigns where you fight alot of dragons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wraith-Hunter, post: 3314009, member: 48298"] Just another reason why I hate clerics. Any new book comes out they automagically get all the new spells. Not to mention all the other goodies. Frankly if I run a game again, all healing spells will be universal, so you don't NEED a cleric in a group if nobody wants to play them. They can still keep their undead turning and such, but the problem as I see it is they were made the be the most powerfull character to entice people who don't want to play a devout character to play one. Simply because every group needs a medic. That is the real problem they could tone down clerics ALOT and people who like them would still play them, though they would not be required in a group, and the people who like playing the most powerfull character would be something else. Better for all. In regards to killing dragons, controling the enviornment is always the best way in my experience but not always easy to do. There is alot of good stuff in the Dragonomicon though. Lots of it is not as usefull for general purpose stuff but great for campaigns where you fight alot of dragons. [/QUOTE]

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