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How to kills a dragon... Help with a Warforged Juggernaut build?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cyclone_Joker" data-source="post: 6184945" data-attributes="member: 6750006"><p>I still hold by my theory that it's actually Asmodeus trying to get a foothold in reality. Only way to explain how something so vile could exist.</p><p>Despite it being a very clear part of the rules and 3.5's greatest strength in the game? Oh, god, that's even worse than core-only.</p><p>People actually use that rule? It's second only to the Alignment system as the most idiotic rule in 3.5.</p><p>It also requires you to be a caster, and if you're a caster, your mental stats are probably too high for you to even consider using that pathetic excuse for a spell.</p><p>The issue is that that kind of build doesn't work past level eight or so. It's too easy to just basically deny any build like that, and tripping really falls apart around there due to massive strength and inflated hit dice of any monster that's actually threatening.</p><p></p><p>But, meh, I'm just jaded, I guess, similar to how I recommend against anyone wasting money on AC.</p><p>Nope, although the Ring of Anticipation is worth noting as one of the best items in the game for its price. I'm talking about the... hell, I can't remember its name, the immediate action teleport cloak. It's only. what, 5500, and shuts down any chargers handily.</p><p>Oh, hey, that's kinda a cool idea. I hadn't thought of that.</p><p>I do believe the traditional way to evade the problem with that is to just burn all your frenzies in the beginning of the day. I mean, it's not like you actually care about frenzy, the reason you'd ever consider taking FB is for the Power Attack.</p><p>Aptitude abuse? Ugh, that's... I dunno, it's blatantly cheesy, and not even in an interesting, funny, or particularly cool way.</p><p></p><p>Also, if you're abusing it, you should just go <a href="http://community.wizards.com/content/forum-topic/3470196" target="_blank">balls-out</a>. What's the point of blatantly abusing poorly-written rules if you don't do it with <em>style</em>?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cyclone_Joker, post: 6184945, member: 6750006"] I still hold by my theory that it's actually Asmodeus trying to get a foothold in reality. Only way to explain how something so vile could exist. Despite it being a very clear part of the rules and 3.5's greatest strength in the game? Oh, god, that's even worse than core-only. People actually use that rule? It's second only to the Alignment system as the most idiotic rule in 3.5. It also requires you to be a caster, and if you're a caster, your mental stats are probably too high for you to even consider using that pathetic excuse for a spell. The issue is that that kind of build doesn't work past level eight or so. It's too easy to just basically deny any build like that, and tripping really falls apart around there due to massive strength and inflated hit dice of any monster that's actually threatening. But, meh, I'm just jaded, I guess, similar to how I recommend against anyone wasting money on AC. Nope, although the Ring of Anticipation is worth noting as one of the best items in the game for its price. I'm talking about the... hell, I can't remember its name, the immediate action teleport cloak. It's only. what, 5500, and shuts down any chargers handily. Oh, hey, that's kinda a cool idea. I hadn't thought of that. I do believe the traditional way to evade the problem with that is to just burn all your frenzies in the beginning of the day. I mean, it's not like you actually care about frenzy, the reason you'd ever consider taking FB is for the Power Attack. Aptitude abuse? Ugh, that's... I dunno, it's blatantly cheesy, and not even in an interesting, funny, or particularly cool way. Also, if you're abusing it, you should just go [url=http://community.wizards.com/content/forum-topic/3470196]balls-out[/url]. What's the point of blatantly abusing poorly-written rules if you don't do it with [I]style[/I]? [/QUOTE]
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