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<blockquote data-quote="punkorange" data-source="post: 2111513" data-attributes="member: 28675">Maybe it would help if you left the suprise round as written(which happens *maybe* once a session IMC), and replace round 1 with the &quot;preparing for combat&quot; phase, in this phase you start by rolling initiative and are flat footed until your initiative.&nbsp; Remember the six second &quot;PfC&quot; phase all happens at once.&nbsp; Then on round 1 they are flat footed.&nbsp; This actually changes no rules mechanics, only the flavor you want.on the whole 30 dex not helping in combat if you lose the init.&nbsp; If you don't go on the first round with a 30 dex, Then I would be very suprised.&nbsp;&nbsp; On average a 30 dex rogue with no feats would get an initiative of 20.&nbsp; &nbsp;On the rogue rushing the king.&nbsp; Just throw in some flavor that doesn't effect the mechanics to make it fit.&nbsp; &quot;The rogue rushes past the guards to strike at the king.&nbsp; The guards swing their swords at the rogue but the rogue proved too quick for them.&quot;&nbsp; The attack roll you make isn't neciserally the only attack you make in the entire six seconds of the round, you could make three attacks, that's just the one that counts.&nbsp; &nbsp;You asked how to legally overcome flatfoodedness?&nbsp; Plain and simple it cannot be done.&nbsp; I agree that flavor should be made to fit mechanics, and not the other way around.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="punkorange, post: 2111513, member: 28675"] Maybe it would help if you left the suprise round as written(which happens *maybe* once a session IMC), and replace round 1 with the "preparing for combat" phase, in this phase you start by rolling initiative and are flat footed until your initiative. Remember the six second "PfC" phase all happens at once. Then on round 1 they are flat footed. This actually changes no rules mechanics, only the flavor you want. on the whole 30 dex not helping in combat if you lose the init. If you don't go on the first round with a 30 dex, Then I would be very suprised. On average a 30 dex rogue with no feats would get an initiative of 20. On the rogue rushing the king. Just throw in some flavor that doesn't effect the mechanics to make it fit. "The rogue rushes past the guards to strike at the king. The guards swing their swords at the rogue but the rogue proved too quick for them." The attack roll you make isn't neciserally the only attack you make in the entire six seconds of the round, you could make three attacks, that's just the one that counts. You asked how to legally overcome flatfoodedness? Plain and simple it cannot be done. I agree that flavor should be made to fit mechanics, and not the other way around. [/QUOTE]

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