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<blockquote data-quote="Thornir Alekeg" data-source="post: 2113556" data-attributes="member: 15651"><p>Yes, but I was not talking about readied actions in this part. In this part of my response I was making the assumption that everyone was following the rules as written and that as a result there were no readied actions. I was looking to explain my thoughts on the idea of being caught flat-footed in the first combat round.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well if you keep reading, on page 26 they clarify this about as much as you could ask. By the rules as written this is not permitted. I believe the idea is that if you cannot interact, you cannot really have a readied action that is worth anything. Using the example in the DMG, You are covering the door. Another party member moves up to the door to open it. The rest of the party states that they are readying an action to shoot the first orc they see. On the other side of the door, the orcs ready actions to shoot the first PC they see. The door opens and...what? Everyone shoots at the same time? Was everyone looking at the correct spot at the same instance, or was one person looking to the left side of the doorway, another to the right. The orcs have the same problem. You do not know exactly where to look and aim in that first instant. This is what the initiative roll is supposed to simulate. One orc targets you before you target it. He shoots first because he had a better reaction time. I will grant that it stretches logic to think one could run 60 feet at you before you can shoot a bow at him, but what if your readied action was to charge the first orc you see? Which goes first? The orcs bow shot or your charge?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thornir Alekeg, post: 2113556, member: 15651"] Yes, but I was not talking about readied actions in this part. In this part of my response I was making the assumption that everyone was following the rules as written and that as a result there were no readied actions. I was looking to explain my thoughts on the idea of being caught flat-footed in the first combat round. Well if you keep reading, on page 26 they clarify this about as much as you could ask. By the rules as written this is not permitted. I believe the idea is that if you cannot interact, you cannot really have a readied action that is worth anything. Using the example in the DMG, You are covering the door. Another party member moves up to the door to open it. The rest of the party states that they are readying an action to shoot the first orc they see. On the other side of the door, the orcs ready actions to shoot the first PC they see. The door opens and...what? Everyone shoots at the same time? Was everyone looking at the correct spot at the same instance, or was one person looking to the left side of the doorway, another to the right. The orcs have the same problem. You do not know exactly where to look and aim in that first instant. This is what the initiative roll is supposed to simulate. One orc targets you before you target it. He shoots first because he had a better reaction time. I will grant that it stretches logic to think one could run 60 feet at you before you can shoot a bow at him, but what if your readied action was to charge the first orc you see? Which goes first? The orcs bow shot or your charge? [/QUOTE]
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