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How to make a 3.5 monk with western flavor?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5601006" data-attributes="member: 6674931"><p>IMHO, Monks is the offspring of "stupid game design". ...But let me explain.</p><p></p><p>Clerics, Priests, and Monks are all men of faith. This means that they should</p><p> </p><p>ALL be divine spellcasters. Now for some stupid reason I cannot understand, </p><p></p><p>the monk is not a divine spellcaster. The Shao Lin monks (which are clearly</p><p></p><p>the inspiration for the Monk class), were/are just as faithful to their gods/beliefs,</p><p></p><p>as the western monks were to their own, and they are/were just as priests/clerics as</p><p></p><p>the western ones are/were. Yet the western monk is represented in the game more</p><p></p><p>with the cleric base class, than with the monk, while the eastern monk is represented in the game</p><p></p><p>with the monk base class.</p><p></p><p>(The one draws powers for his god, while other doesn't!!! (???) I'd dare say that this is racism!!!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />)</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>...So if you really want to play a western monk, cleric is right class for you.</p><p></p><p>In fact, ALL monks should go under cleric. It doesn't make any cense whatsoever, that a monk, a man with</p><p></p><p>an equally strong faith and devotion to his god as the cleric (if not even stronger!), does not receive divine powers</p><p></p><p>from his god!!!</p><p></p><p>And while I think the Monk class is interesting, I think the major</p><p></p><p>problem with it, is it's <u><strong>name</strong></u>. It might have been a theme-braker, </p><p></p><p>but IMO "ninja' or something... would have been far more appropriate...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: NO offense to you Monk lovers out there!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>As I said, the Monk, as a class, is a rather interesting martial class... it's just that the name is SO wrong in respect</p><p></p><p>to the game mechanics and the cleric base class...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jimlock, post: 5601006, member: 6674931"] IMHO, Monks is the offspring of "stupid game design". ...But let me explain. Clerics, Priests, and Monks are all men of faith. This means that they should ALL be divine spellcasters. Now for some stupid reason I cannot understand, the monk is not a divine spellcaster. The Shao Lin monks (which are clearly the inspiration for the Monk class), were/are just as faithful to their gods/beliefs, as the western monks were to their own, and they are/were just as priests/clerics as the western ones are/were. Yet the western monk is represented in the game more with the cleric base class, than with the monk, while the eastern monk is represented in the game with the monk base class. (The one draws powers for his god, while other doesn't!!! (???) I'd dare say that this is racism!!!:D) ...So if you really want to play a western monk, cleric is right class for you. In fact, ALL monks should go under cleric. It doesn't make any cense whatsoever, that a monk, a man with an equally strong faith and devotion to his god as the cleric (if not even stronger!), does not receive divine powers from his god!!! And while I think the Monk class is interesting, I think the major problem with it, is it's [U][B]name[/B][/U]. It might have been a theme-braker, but IMO "ninja' or something... would have been far more appropriate... EDIT: NO offense to you Monk lovers out there!:) As I said, the Monk, as a class, is a rather interesting martial class... it's just that the name is SO wrong in respect to the game mechanics and the cleric base class... [/QUOTE]
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