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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6680790" data-attributes="member: 92511">My only retort to that is the more time spent making the players go through the monotonous things will make the encounters more enjoyable.I do get your meaning that you don't want the players feeling &quot;this sucks&quot;...but just glossing over the extent of the difficulty and how often &quot;nothing happens&quot; is not going to get your players to think in their character's view/immersion, &quot;this sucks.&quot;You shouldn't have to remind the players of the passage of time...that often. (Obviously, you won't be taking this much real/game time.) They should feel bored...they should feel the monotony...they should feel the &quot;Are we there yet?!&quot; and be angered when their progress is impeded by things like impassable passages and dead ends. The &quot;Crap. Another dex./str./con check? I HATE the Underdark!&quot; when there's a cave in or a huge cliff to climb up or repel down.&quot;It's been 6 days [or weeks!]...as best you can tell...since you've seen another living thing.&quot;&quot;It's been two months since you left that svirfneblin enclave. Six weeks since you came across that flooded chamber. Your rations and fresh water are all but gone...&quot; [a.k..a.you're going to start taking exhaustion levels for each day without food, and another level of exhaustion for each day without drink. So 2 exhaustion levels per day without food and drink.OH! And if it hasn't been covered already (I'd be surprised if it hasn't)...EVERYWHERE, except the rare well-traveled routes or populated areas, is difficult terrain. You're moving, at best (without magic or guided assistance), 1/2 movement per day. Climbing up and down and over and around, uneven floors and sharp jags of stone. The whole experience should be a pain and a half and when [IF] they get out of the Underdark alive, both players and characters should think, &quot;We never want to have to go there again!&quot;]<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6680790, member: 92511"] My only retort to that is the more time spent making the players go through the monotonous things will make the encounters more enjoyable. I do get your meaning that you don't want the players feeling "this sucks"...but just glossing over the extent of the difficulty and how often "nothing happens" is not going to get your players to think in their character's view/immersion, "this sucks." You shouldn't have to remind the players of the passage of time...that often. (Obviously, you won't be taking this much real/game time.) They should feel bored...they should feel the monotony...they should feel the "Are we there yet?!" and be angered when their progress is impeded by things like impassable passages and dead ends. The "Crap. Another dex./str./con check? I HATE the Underdark!" when there's a cave in or a huge cliff to climb up or repel down. "It's been 6 days [or weeks!]...as best you can tell...since you've seen another living thing." "It's been two months since you left that svirfneblin enclave. Six weeks since you came across that flooded chamber. Your rations and fresh water are all but gone..." [a.k..a.you're going to start taking exhaustion levels for each day without food, and another level of exhaustion for each day without drink. So 2 exhaustion levels per day without food and drink. OH! And if it hasn't been covered already (I'd be surprised if it hasn't)...EVERYWHERE, except the rare well-traveled routes or populated areas, is difficult terrain. You're moving, at best (without magic or guided assistance), 1/2 movement per day. Climbing up and down and over and around, uneven floors and sharp jags of stone. The whole experience should be a pain and a half and when [IF] they get out of the Underdark alive, both players and characters should think, "We never want to have to go there again!" ]:) [/QUOTE]

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