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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darklone" data-source="post: 3943606" data-attributes="member: 1372">Yupp, pretty much how I'd do it. Let's get nasty.Halfling ftr/rogs with Crossbow Sniper (PHB2) for 60ft sneak attacks and half dex mod to damage, the feat from Bo9S that gives +1d6 damage in the first round of combat, Rapid Shot, Rapid Reload. All well hidden (take 20). That's Dex 22 with potions of Cat's Grace, +3 to damage, +6 to hit, bane arrows, +2 from the bard leader to hit and damage, +2d6 or +3d6 damage due to sneak attack and that First Strike... Some melee brutes around the party and one speaker who might just be a bard/marshal (HASTE!!! or warblade1/bard8 with Haste and Song of the White Raven) or dragonshaman. A cleric with Bless in the background and two level 5 wizards with fireball and stinking cloud.Say, if you have 5 PCs, take 10 mooks level 4-5 with one level 8 leader and you can have a lot of fun. Usually I give the mooks less wealth for their level and lower the CR accordingly.All the PCs see is one guy on the street with two bodyguards and two more bodyguards left and right of the street walking casually into view (out of full cover). The speaker tells them they're in Point Blank range and asks nicely to drop their weapons.In my games, you're out of mookrealm with level 5.</blockquote>