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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 9794043" data-attributes="member: 3400"><p>Enemies can get access to pack tactics but that ability tends to be given to lower-CR creatures - which is good. They'll need that to appropriately threaten PCs at lower levels. But by the time they're facing the high AC/displaced PC, they're often only hitting on 20s anyway. Higher CR monsters don't generally get pack tactics.</p><p></p><p>And, yes, 5e has improved balance between casters and martials all the way up the level chain. And that's why a high level fighter can become a legitimate balance concern, particularly if their defensive prowess starts to outstrip their companions which puts you, as DM, at risk of overtuning a monster to prove a suitable challenge to the fighter. In the high level campaign I ran, I think I put the fear of god in the fighter only twice between 13th level and 20th - once when the lich dispelled their magnificent mansion so he had to fight without his armor, and a second time as a warlock spammed enough eldritch blasts at him to hit and hurl him through hell.</p><p>Don't get me wrong, I approve of the way the fighters are formidable at high level. I'd just prefer either high AC <strong>OR</strong> the cloak of displacement - not both at the same time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="billd91, post: 9794043, member: 3400"] Enemies can get access to pack tactics but that ability tends to be given to lower-CR creatures - which is good. They'll need that to appropriately threaten PCs at lower levels. But by the time they're facing the high AC/displaced PC, they're often only hitting on 20s anyway. Higher CR monsters don't generally get pack tactics. And, yes, 5e has improved balance between casters and martials all the way up the level chain. And that's why a high level fighter can become a legitimate balance concern, particularly if their defensive prowess starts to outstrip their companions which puts you, as DM, at risk of overtuning a monster to prove a suitable challenge to the fighter. In the high level campaign I ran, I think I put the fear of god in the fighter only twice between 13th level and 20th - once when the lich dispelled their magnificent mansion so he had to fight without his armor, and a second time as a warlock spammed enough eldritch blasts at him to hit and hurl him through hell. Don't get me wrong, I approve of the way the fighters are formidable at high level. I'd just prefer either high AC [B]OR[/B] the cloak of displacement - not both at the same time. [/QUOTE]
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