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<blockquote data-quote="CCamfield" data-source="post: 820777" data-attributes="member: 8123">Re: Spartan PristsI think that's a good solution - it's not like the shortspear is any more powerful than a longsword.&nbsp; I think the longspear is too long for the hoplites.&nbsp; The later Macedonians used long pikes (sarissas) in a formation where their spears definitely did overlap ahead of the front rank.&nbsp; Those would definitely be longspears, or even longer (something with 15' reach!).&nbsp; Useless any closer than that, though.Improved Bull Rush seems like a good feat for representing the shoving action in hoplite combat.&nbsp; You could in addition have a Hoplite Bull Rush feat which gives +1 per person behind you who also has Hoplite Bull Rush, to both Bull Rush attempts and rolls to resist them.&nbsp; The deeper the hoplite formation, the better they were at pushing back their opponents.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CCamfield, post: 820777, member: 8123"] [b]Re: Spartan Prists[/b] I think that's a good solution - it's not like the shortspear is any more powerful than a longsword. I think the longspear is too long for the hoplites. The later Macedonians used long pikes (sarissas) in a formation where their spears definitely did overlap ahead of the front rank. Those would definitely be longspears, or even longer (something with 15' reach!). Useless any closer than that, though. Improved Bull Rush seems like a good feat for representing the shoving action in hoplite combat. You could in addition have a Hoplite Bull Rush feat which gives +1 per person behind you who also has Hoplite Bull Rush, to both Bull Rush attempts and rolls to resist them. The deeper the hoplite formation, the better they were at pushing back their opponents. [/QUOTE]

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