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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 8257062" data-attributes="member: 6802951">How powerful do you see these maneuvers being (particularly when it comes to encroaching on the BM's remit) and how long do you see such training taking?Spending several months training with a master before moving on to find another sounds like the optional training to level rule. Picking up a specific special technique in a few days without dedicating yourself to martial endeavours (multiclassing) sounds like a good justification of taking a feat.It these are just available to be gained without any character advancement investment, then boons would be one option. Another would be to treat them like the way a wizard can gain extra spells for their spellbook.  - Finding a master willing to teach can be made easy or rare like scrolls as treasure, and most would require paying, or equivalent service for their training.If a wizard with a longsword can just pick up a maneuver that doesn't require superiority dice, that is really going to cheapen the BM raison d'etre however. - I'd regard that as a boon more powerful than a feat, and fighter players would probably look upon it like a wizard player finding that fighters could train similarly to cast counterspell 1/day would.</blockquote>