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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 1186982" data-attributes="member: 1210">Sorry, I have to disagree.While a paladin would not necessarily feel obliged to obey the laws of an enemy state while working against it, I think he'd have to try every legal alternative before disobeying the laws of his own nation.&nbsp; For instance, Sir Blush (our paladin) lives in the Duchy of Urnst.&nbsp; The new Duke (the rightful heir after his father dies of a stroke) is somewhat cruel and raises the peasants' taxes, plus requires all weapon-bearing men of age to serve six weeks in his army per year.&nbsp; Then he starts arresting political opponents, confiscates a bunch of church land, and finally starts exterminating the local halflings.At what point does the paladin turn on his rightful liege?&nbsp; This is one of the ways that paladins end up at war with each other.&nbsp; If the paladin emphasizes Good over Law, he prolly turns when the halfling death camps are set up.&nbsp; If he emphasizes Law over Good, he might stick with his rightful liege even then.&nbsp; The point is, unless the offenses are highly egregious, the paladin will remain bound by the laws of his land.&nbsp; That's the Lawful part of LG.&nbsp; Rebelling against his master might cost him his paladinhood if he's not careful- but so might staying with him.&nbsp; The best choice might be to martyr himself or get arrested or something, to set an example and perhaps change things without breaking his oath of loyalty.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 1186982, member: 1210"] Sorry, I have to disagree. While a paladin would not necessarily feel obliged to obey the laws of an enemy state while working against it, I think he'd have to try every [i]legal[/i] alternative before disobeying the laws of his own nation. For instance, Sir Blush (our paladin) lives in the Duchy of Urnst. The new Duke (the rightful heir after his father dies of a stroke) is somewhat cruel and raises the peasants' taxes, plus requires all weapon-bearing men of age to serve six weeks in his army per year. Then he starts arresting political opponents, confiscates a bunch of church land, and finally starts exterminating the local halflings. At what point does the paladin turn on his rightful liege? This is one of the ways that paladins end up at war with each other. If the paladin emphasizes Good over Law, he prolly turns when the halfling death camps are set up. If he emphasizes Law over Good, he might stick with his rightful liege even then. The point is, unless the offenses are highly egregious, the paladin will remain bound by the laws of his land. That's the Lawful part of LG. Rebelling against his master might cost him his paladinhood if he's not careful- but so might staying with him. The best choice might be to martyr himself or get arrested or something, to set an example and perhaps change things without breaking his oath of loyalty. [/QUOTE]

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