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<blockquote data-quote="willardthor" data-source="post: 5633452" data-attributes="member: 6680063">Two things here:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does a level 2 Fighter know about charm spells, and</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can a charmed individual feel that he was charmed, after the charm wears off?</li>
</ul>For the first part, it depends on the fighter's background, and the level of magic in your campaign setting. If wizards and magic is/are rare, and his background does not indicate that he has spent much time with wizards, then no way.For the second part, I took a look at the Saving Throw section in the Player's Handbook 3.5 (page 176), which explains what happens when you succeed on a saving throw. I was hoping to find the same entry contained in the Psionic's Handbook 3.5 (page 62):But, alas, it is not in the Player's Handbook. Strange, as I am sure that this issue is very old, since, as you say, knowing that you have been charmed completely ruins charm.I would then say that, as always, the GM has the final say. Were I the GM, I would pick the ruling from the Psionics Handbook, and if the fighter player complains, I would tell him to put a sock in it.Of course, the rest of the party might grow mistrustful of the wizard, knowing that if he does not get what he wants, he simply charms people into his will (I take it they saw the wizard cast the spell, and saw the fighter change his behaviour afterwards).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="willardthor, post: 5633452, member: 6680063"] Two things here: [LIST] [*]Does a level 2 Fighter know about [i]charm[/i] spells, and [*]Can a [i]charmed[/i] individual feel that he was charmed, after the charm wears off? [/LIST] For the first part, it depends on the fighter's background, and the level of magic in your campaign setting. If wizards and magic is/are rare, and his background does not indicate that he has spent much time with wizards, then [b]no way[/b]. For the second part, I took a look at the [b]Saving Throw[/b] section in the Player's Handbook 3.5 (page 176), which explains what happens when you succeed on a saving throw. I was hoping to find the same entry contained in the Psionic's Handbook 3.5 (page 62): But, alas, it is not in the Player's Handbook. Strange, as I am sure that this issue is very old, since, as you say, knowing that you have been charmed completely ruins charm. I would then say that, as always, the GM has the final say. Were I the GM, I would pick the ruling from the Psionics Handbook, and if the fighter player complains, I would tell him to put a sock in it. Of course, the rest of the party might grow mistrustful of the wizard, knowing that if he does not get what he wants, he simply charms people into his will (I take it they saw the wizard cast the spell, and saw the fighter change his behaviour afterwards). [/QUOTE]

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