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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9869106" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>This book contained 13 kits: True Bard, Blade, Charlatan, Gallant, Gypsy-bard, Herald, Jester, Jongleur, Loremaster, Meistersinger, Riddlemaster, Skald, and Thespian.</p><p></p><p>True bard was just the kitless PHB bard..we'll skip it.</p><p>Blade was literally redone as college of swords. </p><p>Loremaster is also just the college of lore.</p><p>Skald is replicated with the college of war.</p><p>Jongluer probably could be college of dance.</p><p>Herald can be handled with the College of Eloquence. </p><p>The meister singer is adequately covered with the college of the moon.</p><p></p><p>That leaves charlatan, gallant, jester, riddler, thespian, and g*psy. </p><p></p><p>Charlatan is a background option, so mixing that with Eloquence would probably be fine. The Actor feat similarly is a big step towards the thespian. </p><p></p><p>The jester WAS in the same UA that swords was, but got cut. You can find that old UA or get a 3pp jester subclass. Dance works in a pinch. </p><p></p><p>The gallant was based on the tragic romantic hero, and probably a good replacement is Darrington presses College of tragedy from Taldorei Reborn. </p><p></p><p>Honestly stumped on riddlemaster. It wasn't a good kit to begin with. Maybe a lore bard or a whisper bard. There may be a 3pp option that works too.</p><p></p><p>I'd avoid g*psy. It's just a bunch of Roma stereotypes. If you want an Esmeralda like character, opt for a dance bard or a glamour bard (replacing g*psy tropes for fey).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 9869106, member: 7635"] This book contained 13 kits: True Bard, Blade, Charlatan, Gallant, Gypsy-bard, Herald, Jester, Jongleur, Loremaster, Meistersinger, Riddlemaster, Skald, and Thespian. True bard was just the kitless PHB bard..we'll skip it. Blade was literally redone as college of swords. Loremaster is also just the college of lore. Skald is replicated with the college of war. Jongluer probably could be college of dance. Herald can be handled with the College of Eloquence. The meister singer is adequately covered with the college of the moon. That leaves charlatan, gallant, jester, riddler, thespian, and g*psy. Charlatan is a background option, so mixing that with Eloquence would probably be fine. The Actor feat similarly is a big step towards the thespian. The jester WAS in the same UA that swords was, but got cut. You can find that old UA or get a 3pp jester subclass. Dance works in a pinch. The gallant was based on the tragic romantic hero, and probably a good replacement is Darrington presses College of tragedy from Taldorei Reborn. Honestly stumped on riddlemaster. It wasn't a good kit to begin with. Maybe a lore bard or a whisper bard. There may be a 3pp option that works too. I'd avoid g*psy. It's just a bunch of Roma stereotypes. If you want an Esmeralda like character, opt for a dance bard or a glamour bard (replacing g*psy tropes for fey). [/QUOTE]
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