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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadzar" data-source="post: 5444914" data-attributes="member: 6667746">If they used the same molds, then yes.I never said which minis were crap, but at least 25% of the minis in each set was probably something most wouldn't use. Those exact minis differe from person to person. That is the filler that needs to be sold to cover the cost of the larger figures to make things even out for WotC. Usually smaller minis or lower attention sculpts, or lesser directed paint jobs.What I know is that for over 30 years HASBRO has been selling unpainted plastic toy figures to the masses, and they have gobbled them up enough that they were ABLE to buy WotC.I also know WotC is charging in part for the name as the McFarlane prices above prove in comparing the dragons.I also know that WotC had problems selling the minis, or the line wouldn't have ended.I also know that Warhammer was the leading competitor for D&D for several decades, and it onlt sold non-painted non-random miniatures.There was a reason that plastic miniatures for board games never came painted before, because it cost too much. WotC just failed to acknowledge that and got burned in the long run. Now we see board game form WotC with unpainted miniatures, and colored plastics. Seems to make people happy, and not just the D&D RPG players, nor just the D&D miniature game players.So obviously people do like or are happy with non-random non-painted miniatures.The more potential custoemrs you can interest, the beter your product will be. Broader audiences sell more stuff.DDM had 2 major audiences, skirmish and RPG players. Plastic toys figures have kids everywhere that will want them, board games use them, RPG players can use them, and guess what the Ravenloft minis seem to work just fine for the skirmish game too. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />Logic and common sense should help you udnerstand it jsut as I do. They offer a product to a small audience and market, and didn't sell much of it. Opening that market up to a bigger audience with a little alretation that will lower cost, has the chance to make more money.The less accessible and visible your product is, the less people there will be to buy it.The more accessible and visible your product is, the more people there will be to buy it.Have a lemonade stand on one street corner, you will get less customers than having one on each of 5 street corners.</blockquote>

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