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How to run a criminal organization in a City with 8th level spells?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dessert Nomad" data-source="post: 7522955" data-attributes="member: 6976536"><p>The flip side of that is that I can say those words and only those words if:</p><p>I paid or ordered someone else to murder John Smith. I didn't do it myself, so I can truthfully say I didn't do it.</p><p>I told someone violent than John Smith insulted them, which led to a duel where he died.</p><p>I don't consider killing him murder, I consider it an accident or self defense or otherwise justified.</p><p>I was under the effects of a compulsion spell, which means it wasn't 'murder' as I had no intent of my own.</p><p>I used something to wipe the memory of killing him, for example I did the deed but had a friendly illusionist wipe the memory afterwards.</p><p></p><p>On the flip side, asking a question like "Did you kill John Smith" could require me to answer yes if:</p><p>He attacked me and I defended myself against the attack.</p><p>He was injured by someone else and I tried to save him, but failed.</p><p>We were long-time partners, I drifted away from him, then he got sick or killed himself later, and I blame myself for it.</p><p>I was under the effects of a mind affecting spell and compelled to do it.</p><p></p><p>Teaching your mooks and co-conspirators some basic legal theory and precise vocabulary could really throw a wrench into that kind of questioning. And this isn't just made up for the game, there have been real life cases where someone 'confessed' to a murder but the confession was thrown out because they were just blaming themselves for not doing enough for a sick relative.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dessert Nomad, post: 7522955, member: 6976536"] The flip side of that is that I can say those words and only those words if: I paid or ordered someone else to murder John Smith. I didn't do it myself, so I can truthfully say I didn't do it. I told someone violent than John Smith insulted them, which led to a duel where he died. I don't consider killing him murder, I consider it an accident or self defense or otherwise justified. I was under the effects of a compulsion spell, which means it wasn't 'murder' as I had no intent of my own. I used something to wipe the memory of killing him, for example I did the deed but had a friendly illusionist wipe the memory afterwards. On the flip side, asking a question like "Did you kill John Smith" could require me to answer yes if: He attacked me and I defended myself against the attack. He was injured by someone else and I tried to save him, but failed. We were long-time partners, I drifted away from him, then he got sick or killed himself later, and I blame myself for it. I was under the effects of a mind affecting spell and compelled to do it. Teaching your mooks and co-conspirators some basic legal theory and precise vocabulary could really throw a wrench into that kind of questioning. And this isn't just made up for the game, there have been real life cases where someone 'confessed' to a murder but the confession was thrown out because they were just blaming themselves for not doing enough for a sick relative. [/QUOTE]
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