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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dessert Nomad" data-source="post: 7522977" data-attributes="member: 6976536">No, I don't 'realize' that, and what you posted looks much more like a system to produce executions than one intended to sort out guilt and innocence; I'm not inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to a system that has the death penalty for refusing to confess to a crime. Your examples explicitly don't allow the defendant to offer a defense, and in your own example if the defendant attempts to respond with anything but a direct murder confession, then he's sentenced to death. That's NOT the behavior of a system that's attempting to sort out actual guilt or innocence, that's a system that is looking for a way to justify executing the defendant. The person who set it up may have had good intentions, but we all know what road is paved with those. Doesn't make a difference what explanation the magistrate offers, actually. The spell only compels the subject to answer truthfully, it doesn't require that the subject accept the truth of other people's statements. If the subject doesn't accept the Magistrate's definition, the spell doesn't force them to answer using it. It's actually really common for people to think that legal definitions are nonsense and lies, especially when it involves an emotional issue. I think that in a thread about countermeasures to investigation methods that include 8th level spells, it's justified to bring up 5th level spells and abilities possessed by casters who can cast 7th level spells. The question was actually "Did you kill John Smith", you need to actually read what you quoted. The material that you quoted and are responding to here explicitly says "On the flip side, asking a question like "Did you kill John Smith" could require me to answer yes if". Ignoring that I stipulated that the question was different is unreasonable in general, but it's quite absurd when you quoted the question but denied that it's there.</blockquote>

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