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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xyrlove Woodsoul" data-source="post: 5155924" data-attributes="member: 86857">Well, I have it in my head that Defender= "Attack me", not because of a preconceived archetype, but because of things like, the ability to Mark, and Combat Challenge, Divine Challenge, Divine Sanction, etc, (But as I think about it and play, I can see how many of those things can be used in other ways, as well). And it is more so, just because that's just what happens most, that is, the defenders get attacked, given that a lot of fighters with multi-attack powers end up marking a bunch of enemies, or paladins with DC or DS, and those enemies will have no good incentive to ignore those features.  That's just it though, that is, she either gets beat down and dominates in the process. or everyone else gets attacked. I'm trying to find a "happy medium."  That's a good point. And I always wondered why there was no melee controller. Although, I've seen some druid builds that could pass for one.  This is helpful. Nice summary.  Yeah, it has dawned on me, that WLR doesn't have to be noticed with a knowledge check, given that it's not a power. But, my main dilemma is when the enemies know, and, who should, and should not, attack her, all else being equal (or damn near close).</blockquote>