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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 3415033" data-attributes="member: 9789">Thank you to those who've given suggestions.&nbsp; Level 9 feels rather far away, so taking the leadership feat (or even a feat that gives someone search as a class skill, if such a thing exists) may not be the best option for us right now, although it does seem like it would solve things in the very long term.&nbsp; (Also, as you can tell from the classes, it would be very hard for any of us to sink any skill points into even a class skill, since we all get so few.)A level-dip into rogue is a really good idea, although the BAB hit would hurt (but sneak attack might make up for it).&nbsp; However, the biggest problem is that technically, both non-casters would forfeit any advancement in their classes for a single level dip (and the casters ain't gonna go for it, no matter what).Goggles of Minute Seeing is the best idea so far, I'm thinking.&nbsp; If only we could find a shop...&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; (Another issue with our party:&nbsp; no crafting whatsoever!&nbsp; Otherwise we could just make a ___ of +X to search!)What are other items or equipment that add to search (especially ones that might be readily available)?&nbsp; I can't think of any tools that would relate...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 3415033, member: 9789"] Thank you to those who've given suggestions. Level 9 feels rather far away, so taking the leadership feat (or even a feat that gives someone search as a class skill, if such a thing exists) may not be the best option for us right now, although it does seem like it would solve things in the very long term. (Also, as you can tell from the classes, it would be very hard for any of us to sink any skill points into even a class skill, since we all get so few.) A level-dip into rogue is a really good idea, although the BAB hit would hurt (but sneak attack might make up for it). However, the biggest problem is that technically, both non-casters would forfeit any advancement in their classes for a single level dip (and the casters ain't gonna go for it, no matter what). Goggles of Minute Seeing is the best idea so far, I'm thinking. If only we could find a shop... :) (Another issue with our party: no crafting whatsoever! Otherwise we could just make a ___ of +X to search!) What are other items or equipment that add to search (especially ones that might be readily available)? I can't think of any tools that would relate... [/QUOTE]

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