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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 3417711" data-attributes="member: 9789">The problem isn't that the DM is limiting anything; it's that our maximum &quot;take-20&quot; search is 20.&nbsp; So anything that is well-hidden is beyond our current ability.Amazingly enough, our sorcerer didn't take that spell.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Your point about the rope is valid, though.The problem here is that eating a 3rd+ level spell is far more draining on our party resources than having someone who could just find a trap infinity times per day.&nbsp; Draining to the point of being a non-tactic.&nbsp; Also see:&nbsp; find traps.Once again:&nbsp; we have a sorc, not a wizard.&nbsp; Buying scrolls and wands is a good idea, however.I think this may be the best idea so far!&nbsp; This and the idea of buying goggles or several scrolls are the two most-doable options so far...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 3417711, member: 9789"] The problem isn't that the DM is limiting anything; it's that our maximum "take-20" search is 20. So anything that is well-hidden is beyond our current ability. Amazingly enough, our sorcerer didn't take that spell. :) Your point about the rope is valid, though. The problem here is that eating a 3rd+ level spell is far more draining on our party resources than having someone who could just find a trap infinity times per day. Draining to the point of being a non-tactic. Also see: [I]find traps[/I]. Once again: we have a sorc, not a wizard. Buying scrolls and wands is a good idea, however. I think this may be the best idea so far! This and the idea of buying goggles or several scrolls are the two most-doable options so far... [/QUOTE]

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