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<blockquote data-quote="nittanytbone" data-source="post: 3419252" data-attributes="member: 35709">You can get around the issue with wands, spells, and summoned monkeys, but those are all resource intense.For stop-gap measures, I would suggest having the sorcerer take Summon Monster I for aforementioned reasons.&nbsp; If it weren't for the paladin, you could use Skeletons or Zombies to open doors.For a long term solution, you need the Trapfinding ability in the party and someone with one level in a class for which Search is an in-class skill.&nbsp; There are several solutions to this:If rebuilds are allowed, have the monk front-load one level of rogue at level 1 then buy Search and Disable Device cross class the rest of his career.&nbsp; Open locks is redundant (use an adamantite weapon + silence spell if need be).&nbsp; If they aren't, the rogue or paladin should do the multiclass.&nbsp; Yeah, they can't take more Pally/Monk levels, but they should be looking at PrCs at this point anyways.&nbsp; They have less to lose by multiclassing than the casters do, who will lose spell progression.Another rebuild could be Rogue 1/Cloistered Cleric (from UA) X.&nbsp; You lose a caster level, but have lots of SP.You could polymorph someone into a Dwarf (or reincarnate them thus!).&nbsp; Stonecutting is like Trapfinding in many environments.You can also look for PrCs that offer the Trapfinding ability, but it is pretty rare.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="nittanytbone, post: 3419252, member: 35709"] You can get around the issue with wands, spells, and summoned monkeys, but those are all resource intense. For stop-gap measures, I would suggest having the sorcerer take Summon Monster I for aforementioned reasons. If it weren't for the paladin, you could use Skeletons or Zombies to open doors. For a long term solution, you need the Trapfinding ability in the party and someone with one level in a class for which Search is an in-class skill. There are several solutions to this: If rebuilds are allowed, have the monk front-load one level of rogue at level 1 then buy Search and Disable Device cross class the rest of his career. Open locks is redundant (use an adamantite weapon + silence spell if need be). If they aren't, the rogue or paladin should do the multiclass. Yeah, they can't take more Pally/Monk levels, but they should be looking at PrCs at this point anyways. They have less to lose by multiclassing than the casters do, who will lose spell progression. Another rebuild could be Rogue 1/Cloistered Cleric (from UA) X. You lose a caster level, but have lots of SP. You could polymorph someone into a Dwarf (or reincarnate them thus!). Stonecutting is like Trapfinding in many environments. You can also look for PrCs that offer the Trapfinding ability, but it is pretty rare. [/QUOTE]

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