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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 5354568" data-attributes="member: 18701">Him saying that is kind of a big deal and a bad sign. All the stuff about being unsure about how the rules work sounds like a big excuse to me. The fact that he followed it up by saying that his PC gets &quot;screwed&quot; sort of proves it as far as I'm concerned. But from what you say, it sounds like he's the type of guy that really listens when being criticized. So hopefully he'll remember the advice and not whine anymore. Cause I'm sure he feels pretty silly about it now that you guys pointed it out to him.A lot of people can't handle bad things happening to their PC though. I see them whine about it all the time on RPG forums. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> I've had players tell me they'll make a new PC if their character ever lost all of his equipment. I've seen a player willing to let her PC die just because she thought she was about to lose some stupid locked gauntlets (she wasn't even going to lose them). I've seen players give up a character just because it was physically altered and would require some effort to get back to normal. I just think it's hilarious when people say things like, &quot;my PC gets screwed&quot;. That's part of the game. The challenge is to try and not get screwed, duh. That's why it's a &quot;game&quot;. It's like whining every time you lose a piece in checkers. I don't get why people act like that about D&amp;D. And most of the time it's over some piddly thing that won't have any long term or serious effect, like getting stunned for 4 rounds or something. Oh no, that's really &quot;getting screwed&quot;. Players like that don't know the meaning of getting screwed. I'd hate to see how they'd act if they dealt with some of the BS my characters went through.I actually enjoy when my PCs get screwed. First of all, if it's a royal screw up, then my PC has some good stories to tell later on. Second of all, it gives me something more personal &amp; creative to do that focuses on my character. And third of all, it's another challenge that I get to try and overcome. It sucks to get screwed, but then it's still fun trying to get out of the situation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 5354568, member: 18701"] Him saying that is kind of a big deal and a bad sign. All the stuff about being unsure about how the rules work sounds like a big excuse to me. The fact that he followed it up by saying that his PC gets "screwed" sort of proves it as far as I'm concerned. But from what you say, it sounds like he's the type of guy that really listens when being criticized. So hopefully he'll remember the advice and not whine anymore. Cause I'm sure he feels pretty silly about it now that you guys pointed it out to him. A lot of people can't handle bad things happening to their PC though. I see them whine about it all the time on RPG forums. :p I've had players tell me they'll make a new PC if their character ever lost all of his equipment. I've seen a player willing to let her PC die just because she thought she was about to lose some stupid locked gauntlets (she wasn't even going to lose them). I've seen players give up a character just because it was physically altered and would require some effort to get back to normal. I just think it's hilarious when people say things like, "my PC gets screwed". That's part of the game. The challenge is to try and not get screwed, duh. That's why it's a "game". It's like whining every time you lose a piece in checkers. I don't get why people act like that about D&D. And most of the time it's over some piddly thing that won't have any long term or serious effect, like getting stunned for 4 rounds or something. Oh no, that's really "getting screwed". Players like that don't know the meaning of getting screwed. I'd hate to see how they'd act if they dealt with some of the BS my characters went through. I actually enjoy when my PCs get screwed. First of all, if it's a royal screw up, then my PC has some good stories to tell later on. Second of all, it gives me something more personal & creative to do that focuses on my character. And third of all, it's another challenge that I get to try and overcome. It sucks to get screwed, but then it's still fun trying to get out of the situation. [/QUOTE]

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