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<blockquote data-quote="DumbPaladin" data-source="post: 5356910" data-attributes="member: 90770">I think Janx and a couple of the other posters have it right: the player sees the DM as an enemy or as someone who is out to &quot;screw&quot; him.&nbsp; I'm assuming, from what you've said, that you do NOT have one of those DMs who is out to kill the party off -- such DMs do exist, but I am going to trust that yours is not one of them.In which case, the problem rests solely with your friend, and he really must figure out how to change his mindset, or I can't see how he's going to last long in your group.I definitely can believe that you find him to be a good friend, and like being around him.&nbsp; That doesn't mean you have to game with him.&nbsp; In fact, if this keeps up, there's a good chance you'll like him less as a friend than you do now.(I may be a Dumb Paladin, but my Wisdom is 18. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )The first person who ever left our current group was one of my DM's childhood friends growing up, but he was a horrible player and he basically refused to read the rules or learn how the system worked.&nbsp; He was a goof-off and he made sexual innuendo and offensive jokes the female players in our group began to regularly object to.&nbsp;&nbsp; Before he left the group on his own, the DM admitted to me that he was starting to like his childhood friend a lot less than he had in the past.Don't start down that road.&nbsp; He's your friend now ... so try and move him past this.&nbsp; If he can't, or won't, divorce him from your group so he can still be your friend after this is all said and done.&nbsp; Resenting your friends is one of the worst things you can do.I still wish you luck in getting the message to him as to how RPGs work, that dramatic tension is required, and that the DM is not some tool who just want him to have a bad time.&nbsp; NO good DM wants that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DumbPaladin, post: 5356910, member: 90770"] I think Janx and a couple of the other posters have it right: the player sees the DM as an enemy or as someone who is out to "screw" him. I'm assuming, from what you've said, that you do NOT have one of those DMs who is out to kill the party off -- such DMs do exist, but I am going to trust that yours is not one of them. In which case, the problem rests solely with your friend, and he really must figure out how to change his mindset, or I can't see how he's going to last long in your group. I definitely can believe that you find him to be a good friend, and like being around him. That doesn't mean you have to game with him. In fact, if this keeps up, there's a good chance you'll like him [I]less [/I]as a friend than you do now. (I may be a Dumb Paladin, but my Wisdom is 18. ;) ) The first person who ever left our current group was one of my DM's childhood friends growing up, but he was a horrible player and he basically refused to read the rules or learn how the system worked. He was a goof-off and he made sexual innuendo and offensive jokes the female players in our group began to regularly object to. Before he left the group on his own, the DM admitted to me that he was starting to like his childhood friend a lot less than he had in the past. Don't start down that road. He's your friend now ... so try and move him past this. If he can't, or won't, divorce him from your group so he can [I]still be your friend [/I]after this is all said and done. Resenting your friends is one of the worst things you can do. I still wish you luck in getting the message to him as to how RPGs work, that dramatic tension is required, and that the DM is not some tool who just want him to have a bad time. NO good DM wants that. [/QUOTE]

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