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<blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 5390652" data-attributes="member: 167"><p>That really sucks, I feel for you. Your game sounds fun, even if some rule things seem bit annoying, based on my personal experience in high lv games. So I am not telling you it's wrong etc, just mentioning things that I find hard to balance in d&d so game would stay fun and combat progress quickly enough.</p><p></p><p>I think his issues to react to game that way come from playing too much computer games. Especially if he has played wow or similar game.</p><p></p><p>When my friends game those computer gemes too much, gaming with them sucks. Same goes for me, and generally playing years wow has affected even my ability to dm games as well as I used too. It gives what I call "need to get it now, not later" personality type, and of course "I hate to loose". Most importanly though is that we don't have so much inspiration from other books, games, hobbies, conversations. </p><p></p><p>One of my friends has gained very touchy nature and this kinda attitude "I can't play starcraft with your other friend because he is so good and I am not good enough" and I go "he doesn't care you play badly you only learn playing and he would like to play with you" and he then "no, I dont' stand being bad at it, I rather play wow even if I don't like it anymore". Frustrating.</p><p>He also gives up very easily if things arent going well and his dm:ing style expects players run from everything dangerous and if we don't he arrenges some stupid excuse that forces us to. Oh, and he was always bit tending to that direction.</p><p></p><p>Lol, just to give example of my problematic friend, who I still play roleplaying games sometimes but rarely. And I have to force myself to sometimes play rpg:s with him because he is a friend (and touichy and stubborn), it's not horrible just very boring (and he is quite blind to all yawns). And he rather is dm, he hates loosing control and despite he claims he wants to play he always turn in whiner no matter how game goes. Also no matter how uber his character is, it's not good enough. Especially if someone else is better.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe your friend would rather like dm?</p><p></p><p>I hope talking helps, but if he is like my friend and has similar "security issues and fear of loosing control, even in game of imagination" then you are in bit of trouble, since those qualities rise from deep stuck emotions. </p><p></p><p>But he did have his cool moments for few sessions so there might be hope. It would be sad to break gaming group and excating sounding game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zelda Themelin, post: 5390652, member: 167"] That really sucks, I feel for you. Your game sounds fun, even if some rule things seem bit annoying, based on my personal experience in high lv games. So I am not telling you it's wrong etc, just mentioning things that I find hard to balance in d&d so game would stay fun and combat progress quickly enough. I think his issues to react to game that way come from playing too much computer games. Especially if he has played wow or similar game. When my friends game those computer gemes too much, gaming with them sucks. Same goes for me, and generally playing years wow has affected even my ability to dm games as well as I used too. It gives what I call "need to get it now, not later" personality type, and of course "I hate to loose". Most importanly though is that we don't have so much inspiration from other books, games, hobbies, conversations. One of my friends has gained very touchy nature and this kinda attitude "I can't play starcraft with your other friend because he is so good and I am not good enough" and I go "he doesn't care you play badly you only learn playing and he would like to play with you" and he then "no, I dont' stand being bad at it, I rather play wow even if I don't like it anymore". Frustrating. He also gives up very easily if things arent going well and his dm:ing style expects players run from everything dangerous and if we don't he arrenges some stupid excuse that forces us to. Oh, and he was always bit tending to that direction. Lol, just to give example of my problematic friend, who I still play roleplaying games sometimes but rarely. And I have to force myself to sometimes play rpg:s with him because he is a friend (and touichy and stubborn), it's not horrible just very boring (and he is quite blind to all yawns). And he rather is dm, he hates loosing control and despite he claims he wants to play he always turn in whiner no matter how game goes. Also no matter how uber his character is, it's not good enough. Especially if someone else is better. Maybe your friend would rather like dm? I hope talking helps, but if he is like my friend and has similar "security issues and fear of loosing control, even in game of imagination" then you are in bit of trouble, since those qualities rise from deep stuck emotions. But he did have his cool moments for few sessions so there might be hope. It would be sad to break gaming group and excating sounding game. [/QUOTE]
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