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<blockquote data-quote="Olaf the Stout" data-source="post: 5391277" data-attributes="member: 13703"><p>Your last post actually reminded me of a game I played in about 8 years ago. It was a game set in Harn and combat was very brutal. You really wanted to avoid fights wherever possible as death was a real possibility in every combat you faced.</p><p></p><p>I decided to bring one of my friends along to a session to show him a different style of game (he had only played D&D at that point). The DM didn't have a problem with him coming along to play and gave him an NPC that had been travelling with the party to play.</p><p></p><p>I don't recall the exact details, but my friend managed to get his character killed about halfway through his very first session. Despite the deadly nature of combat, all the regular players in the group had managed to keep their characters alive for quite a few sessions at that point.</p><p></p><p>While I can't remember exactly how my friend's character died, I do remember the DM giving him several outs to avoid dying (you all know that when the DM says "Are you sure that's what you want to do?" that it's generally a big hint NOT to do that.)</p><p></p><p>On the drive home my friend complained to me that the DM "had it in for him" from the start and deliberately killed his PC. When I explained to him the several opportunities the DM had given him to save his character from the situation he dismissed them and reiterated that the DM was "out to get him" and would have just killed him anyway.</p><p></p><p>A couple of years later I DM'd my friend in a D&D campaign and found he had the same paranoia in my game, despite me saying to him many, many times that I was not out to "get" his character. In the end I simply stopped playing with him and in hindsight I'm glad I did as I don't think he ever would have changed his ways.</p><p></p><p>So maybe your friend is the same, he thinks the DM is out to get him, even when it is obvious to others that isn't the case. Hopefully for you he isn't a lost cause like my (now former) friend was.</p><p></p><p>Olaf the Stout</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Olaf the Stout, post: 5391277, member: 13703"] Your last post actually reminded me of a game I played in about 8 years ago. It was a game set in Harn and combat was very brutal. You really wanted to avoid fights wherever possible as death was a real possibility in every combat you faced. I decided to bring one of my friends along to a session to show him a different style of game (he had only played D&D at that point). The DM didn't have a problem with him coming along to play and gave him an NPC that had been travelling with the party to play. I don't recall the exact details, but my friend managed to get his character killed about halfway through his very first session. Despite the deadly nature of combat, all the regular players in the group had managed to keep their characters alive for quite a few sessions at that point. While I can't remember exactly how my friend's character died, I do remember the DM giving him several outs to avoid dying (you all know that when the DM says "Are you sure that's what you want to do?" that it's generally a big hint NOT to do that.) On the drive home my friend complained to me that the DM "had it in for him" from the start and deliberately killed his PC. When I explained to him the several opportunities the DM had given him to save his character from the situation he dismissed them and reiterated that the DM was "out to get him" and would have just killed him anyway. A couple of years later I DM'd my friend in a D&D campaign and found he had the same paranoia in my game, despite me saying to him many, many times that I was not out to "get" his character. In the end I simply stopped playing with him and in hindsight I'm glad I did as I don't think he ever would have changed his ways. So maybe your friend is the same, he thinks the DM is out to get him, even when it is obvious to others that isn't the case. Hopefully for you he isn't a lost cause like my (now former) friend was. Olaf the Stout [/QUOTE]
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