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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9526731" data-attributes="member: 7023840">How to Tell a Player, &quot;No&quot;?Often, enthusiastically, and gleefully!Ahem.In this case, you may just have a problem. Look, I always try to work with a player to make a vision work. But it's a two-way street. A player who demands that they have to play one thing, and only one thing, and that thing isn't allowed by the rules and there isn't any easy way to accommodate that one thing, and then is like, 'Ima do this, becuz videogamez,&quot; may not work for the table.If you've tried to work it out and done your best to make their vision come true, but they insist that they must have exactly what they want and refuse to work with you? Can't cure that.**This is why specific examples are always better than generic, &quot;DM R EVIL&quot; and &quot;PLAYERS SUK&quot; arguments. Most people are kind and generous, and the ones that are jerks you shouldn't play with. But this is no different than a player demanding to start at level 20 in a third level campaign, or a player asking for five free feats, or whatever. Work with players, but not every single player demand is a marching order that a DM must accomplish. We depend on the DM to be fair, but we also depend on players to be reasonable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9526731, member: 7023840"] [I]How to Tell a Player, "No"?[/I] Often, enthusiastically, and gleefully! Ahem. In this case, you may just have a problem. Look, I always try to work with a player to make a vision work. But it's a two-way street. A player who demands that they have to play one thing, and only one thing, and that thing isn't allowed by the rules and there isn't any easy way to accommodate that one thing, and then is like, 'Ima do this, becuz videogamez," may not work for the table. If you've tried to work it out and done your best to make their vision come true, but they insist that they must have exactly what they want and refuse to work with you? Can't cure that.* *This is why specific examples are always better than generic, "DM R EVIL" and "PLAYERS SUK" arguments. Most people are kind and generous, and the ones that are jerks you shouldn't play with. But this is no different than a player demanding to start at level 20 in a third level campaign, or a player asking for five free feats, or whatever. Work with players, but not every single player demand is a marching order that a DM must accomplish. We depend on the DM to be fair, but we also depend on players to be reasonable. [/QUOTE]

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