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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8238908" data-attributes="member: 7023887">Okay, this is a topic that I have seen come up a lot lately, and so I decided to create a thread around it.First off, I want to make it clear, fun cannot be wrong unless it is directly at the expense of someone else. This is true for D&D playstyles, and every other situation where the intent is to have fun. Futhermore, as D&D is a game, where the intent is to have fun, this means that there is no wrong way to play D&D if everyone at the table is having fun, and they are not directly harming anyone outside of the table, no matter how abnormal their playstyle may seem to you. If you have fun playing D&D where no one can speak Common, and everyone at the table is having fun, that is a correct way to play D&D. If a player has fun playing a character in a combat wheelchair, that is a correct way to play D&D. If a table has fun playing D&D in <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/linkout?remoteUrl=https%253a%252f%252fen.wikipedia.org%252fwiki%252fSpelljammer" target="_blank">outer space</a> battling <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/linkout?remoteUrl=https%253a%252f%252fforgottenrealms.fandom.com%252fwiki%252fThought_eater" target="_blank">mind-eating platypuses</a> and <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/neogi" target="_blank">eel-spiders</a> using <a href="http://Okay, this topic has come up a lot lately in recent threads, and so I decided to create a thread around it. First off, I want to make it clear, fun cannot be wrong unless it is directly at the expense of someone else. This is true for D&D playstyles, and every other situation where the intent is to have fun. Futhermore, as D&D is a game, where the intent is to have fun, this means that there is no wrong way to play D&D if everyone at the table is having fun, and they are not directly harming anyone outside of the table, no matter how abnormal their playstyle may seem to you. If you have fun playing D&D where no one can speak Common, and everyone at the table is having fun, that is a correct way to play D&D. If a player has fun playing a character in a combat wheelchair, that is a correct way to play D&D. If a table has fun playing D&D in outer space battling mind-eating platypuses and eel-spiders using [item]laser pistol;laser-pistols[/item and british-space-hippos, that is a correct way to play D&D. If the fun is at the expense of someone else at the table, that is playing D&D incorrectly. For example, if a player has fun because their character constantly steals from everyone else and the victimized players aren%27t having fun due to the problem player%27s behavior, their fun is wrong because it is at the expense of their fellow players, and thus they are playing D&D incorrectly. If a whole group at the table has fun playing D&D because they%27re using racial slurs and base all of their races off of real life racial stereotypes, that is directly at the expense of those real-life racial/cultural groups and thus the table%27s fun is wrong. Now, to address red-herrings and bad-faith arguments that will inevitably come up. People will complain %22the new direction of D&D is negatively effecting my table! Whataboutthat?!?!%22 Wrong. It isn%27t. You have your preferred rulesets already. Any %22negative impact%22 that you are experiencing is in your head. It is pretend and imagined to claim a false sense of victimhood. Your annoyance at the recent inclusive changes to D&D 5e is not a valid rebuttal to the truth that is that D&D cannot be played incorrectly if everyone at the table is having fun and no one is directly being negatively impacted by my table. Comparing your annoyance at my playstyle to the harm that perpetuated racial slurs and stereotypes does to real world marginalized people is both selfish and nonsensical. If you get offended by my D&D game with british space hippos, eel spiders, and spaceships, that%27s on you and you have no right to tell me how to play my game when me and my players are minding our own business and enjoying the game (furthermore, Spelljammer has been in D&D for decades. D&D has been not just a fantasy-medieval game for longer than I%27ve been alive). tl;dr - The answer is almost definitely a %22my fun is not wrong%22, unless your fun is directly at the expense of someone else. If your fun comes at the expense of someone else, stop playing that way. That%27s bad for the community and the world. If your fun isn%27t at the expense of someone else, ignore anyone that tells you that your fun is wrong, because it isn%27t. It doesn%27t matter if you%27re a powergamer, hardcore-roleplayer, Rules as Cool DM, Rules as Written DM, or whatever else. Play how you want, because your fun is not wrong, and call out anyone that you see trying to tell anyone otherwise. The rest of the thread can be for discussing how this idea seems so widespread amongst the community, how to deal with people who gatekeep based on playstyle, and sharing the amazing and unique playstyles that you enjoy at the table. Happy Easter and I hope this discussion remains constructive." target="_blank">laser pistols</a> and <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/giff" target="_blank">british-space-hippos</a>, that is a correct way to play D&D.If the fun is at the expense of someone else at the table, that is playing D&D incorrectly. For example, if a player has fun because their character constantly steals from everyone else and the victimized players aren't having fun due to the problem player's behavior, their fun is wrong because it is at the expense of their fellow players, and thus they are playing D&D incorrectly. If a whole group at the table has fun playing D&D because they're using racial slurs and base all of their races off of real life racial stereotypes, that is directly at the expense of those real-life racial/cultural groups and thus the table's fun is wrong.Now, to address red-herrings and bad-faith arguments that will inevitably come up. People will complain "the new direction of D&D is negatively effecting my table! Whataboutthat?!?!"Wrong. It isn't. You have your preferred rulesets already. Any "negative impact" that you are experiencing is in your head. It is pretend and imagined to claim a false sense of victimhood. Your annoyance at the recent inclusive changes to D&D 5e is not a valid rebuttal to the truth that is that D&D cannot be played incorrectly if everyone at the table is having fun and no one is directly being negatively impacted by my table. Comparing your annoyance at my playstyle to the harm that perpetuated racial slurs and stereotypes does to real world marginalized people is both selfish and nonsensical. If you get offended by my D&D game with british space hippos, eel spiders, and spaceships, that's on you and you have no right to tell me how to play my game when me and my players are minding our own business and enjoying the game (furthermore, Spelljammer has been in D&D for decades. D&D has been not just a fantasy-medieval game for longer than I've been alive).tl;dr - The answer is almost definitely a "my fun is not wrong", unless your fun is directly at the expense of someone else. If your fun comes at the expense of someone else, stop playing that way. That's bad for the community and the world. If your fun isn't at the expense of someone else, ignore anyone that tells you that your fun is wrong, because it isn't. It doesn't matter if you're a powergamer, hardcore-roleplayer, Rules as Cool DM, Rules as Written DM, or whatever else. Play how you want, because your fun is not wrong, and call out anyone that you see trying to tell anyone otherwise.The rest of the thread can be for discussing how this idea seems so widespread amongst the community, how to deal with people who gatekeep based on playstyle, and sharing the amazing and unique playstyles that you enjoy at the table. Happy Easter and I hope this discussion remains constructive.</blockquote>

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