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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8239066" data-attributes="member: 18">If this is meant to be rhetorical, if so it's not the best approach, because this is routinely an approach/test taken by judges/juries in the UK. The dreaded &quot;man on the Clapham omnibus&quot;[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_on_the_Clapham_omnibus[/URL]Not sure if a similar test is used in US jurisprudence.Re: Way of the Wicked I don't think I agree that most people would find that abhorrent because of the extremely consistent cultural double-standard re: murder and war in entertainment. Now, you can go frown at that double-standard if you like, but it's existed for like, what, significantly more than a century? Centuries plural? So I don't think it's going away soon. As [USER=75787]@GrahamWills[/USER] points out, the torture might be, but if it was &quot;offscreen&quot;, probably not.I think there's a deeper and complex discussion about dehumanization of the self to be had too, but I'm not even really sure where to start with that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8239066, member: 18"] If this is meant to be rhetorical, if so it's not the best approach, because this is routinely an approach/test taken by judges/juries in the UK. The dreaded "man on the Clapham omnibus" [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_on_the_Clapham_omnibus[/URL] Not sure if a similar test is used in US jurisprudence. Re: Way of the Wicked I don't think I agree that most people would find that abhorrent because of the extremely consistent cultural double-standard re: murder and war in entertainment. Now, you can go frown at that double-standard if you like, but it's existed for like, what, significantly more than a century? Centuries plural? So I don't think it's going away soon. As [USER=75787]@GrahamWills[/USER] points out, the torture might be, but if it was "offscreen", probably not. I think there's a deeper and complex discussion about dehumanization of the self to be had too, but I'm not even really sure where to start with that. [/QUOTE]

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