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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sev" data-source="post: 5154009" data-attributes="member: 77780">Are you referring to the proficiency bonus?  Both the military and superior weapon categories have weapons with both +2 and +3 proficiency bonuses; I don't see that as related.  The post that spawned this question, for example, cited the longsword, which already has a +3 proficiency bonus.I'm still not convinced to spend an early feat on a superior one-handed weapon training until I've run out of other feats that provide more damage-increase.  It gets you ~1 point of damage per W, and at early levels, you're mostly looking at powers that do 1W.  I'd wait until I was looking at a character that had more than one 2+W powers per encounter, because there are other feats that get me more than +1 damage per hit.  And then?  I'm likely going to want increased hit because I want the option to do all that damage more often.The two-handed superior weapons at least add in things like brutal or high crit or defensive to go alongside the damage-die increase that you generally get when you're upgrading to a superior weapon.  So I can totally see taking superior weapon training as a first feat for, say, a giant-sword-wielding barbarian.  Or even, giving up 1 point of hit in return for Brutal 2, an giant-axe-wielding barbarian (yum!).</blockquote>