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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zaruthustran" data-source="post: 3149219" data-attributes="member: 1457">You're correct. It's pretty simple: in order to hide, you need something to hide behind/in.Easy example: if you hide inside a bathtub behind the shower curtain, and someone tears the curtain down, guess what? you're no longer hidden. Simple.If you don't understand the utility of Hiding, then I invite you to read up a tactic called "ambush". It's a highly desired tactic wherein the attackers hide, and it's plenty useful and effective. A few pop culture examples of the utility of hiding: the bunker takedown in Return of the Jedi, the massacre in Sin City, the entire Splinter Cell video game, the entire movie Enemy at the Gates. I mean, what do you expect? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> If you want some kind of supernatural ability to remain Hidden when someone is looking right at you as you stand there in the open, then you should investigate the (su) ability Hide In Plain Sight.Also, note the rule "If you're observed, even casually, you can't hide." So if you're already observed, you can't just walk into a shadowy area (20% concealment) and then make a hide check. You have to first move totally out of the other person's view: around a corner, deep into fog (100% concealment), etc.Also remember that shadows offer zero concealment from a person with darkvision, and that people with low-light vision take double distance before they perceive shadows*.-z* Perception doesn't alter the fact that the shadows are there, an important distinction for a Shadowdancer.</blockquote>

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