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<blockquote data-quote="CTurbo" data-source="post: 7163520" data-attributes="member: 6855234">I never intended for this thread to turn into offense vs defense but I can see how we ended up here. I don't think picking up a shield is necessarily going to cripple every character offensively. The difference between the dueling fighting style and the GWM fighting style are not THAT great. I'm all about the &quot;best defense is a strong offense&quot; way of thinking, but I still value a high AC... probably more so than most.&nbsp; I made a post a while back about a vHuman Warlock starting with the Moderately Armored feat and I was shocked to see so many question the move and tell me not to bother. I mean that's starting with a 14AC vs starting with a 17AC at level 1. That's huge to me. A Warlock holding a shield is every bit as offensive as a Warlock without one. There is no sacrifice here that I'm aware of. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but a Warlock only needs one hand free to function correctly right? Another good example I like, a vHuman Rogue starting with the Moderately Armored feat has the same exact 14AC vs 17AC decision, BUT... the shield wielding Rogue loses it's option of an offhand attack giving the shieldless Rogue twice as many chances to hit for that sweet sneak damage. On the other hand, the shield Rogue will always have it's bonus action ready for it's Cunning action. That's a pretty fair trade if you ask me, and I think the Moderately armored Rogue would be nearly impossible to take down thanks to it's higher AC and it's more reliable Cunning Action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CTurbo, post: 7163520, member: 6855234"] I never intended for this thread to turn into offense vs defense but I can see how we ended up here. I don't think picking up a shield is necessarily going to cripple every character offensively. The difference between the dueling fighting style and the GWM fighting style are not THAT great. I'm all about the "best defense is a strong offense" way of thinking, but I still value a high AC... probably more so than most. I made a post a while back about a vHuman Warlock starting with the Moderately Armored feat and I was shocked to see so many question the move and tell me not to bother. I mean that's starting with a 14AC vs starting with a 17AC at level 1. That's huge to me. A Warlock holding a shield is every bit as offensive as a Warlock without one. There is no sacrifice here that I'm aware of. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but a Warlock only needs one hand free to function correctly right? Another good example I like, a vHuman Rogue starting with the Moderately Armored feat has the same exact 14AC vs 17AC decision, BUT... the shield wielding Rogue loses it's option of an offhand attack giving the shieldless Rogue twice as many chances to hit for that sweet sneak damage. On the other hand, the shield Rogue will always have it's bonus action ready for it's Cunning action. That's a pretty fair trade if you ask me, and I think the Moderately armored Rogue would be nearly impossible to take down thanks to it's higher AC and it's more reliable Cunning Action. [/QUOTE]

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