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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7207966" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>No. I won't stop. This is extra rich coming from the guy who has done <em>nothing but</em> blame WotC for literally everything about 5e since it came out. Why you even play the game or post on the 5e forum is beyond me. You do nothing but complain and blame others. Every day. Every thread.</p><p></p><p>But more to the point:</p><p></p><p>a) That is not what I said at all, but it's nice to see you resort to your strawmen immediately. There are many games (since we all have different preferences). It absolutely is up to the DM to tailor their game to fit their player's preferences. It's always been that way. It has to be that way when we all want different things. And a DM who refuses to bother to do that absolutely is a lazy DM. This is not assigning how lazy a DM is by how well the game fits out of the box for them. It is about a DM refusing to put the work in make the game fun for their table. It is absolutely the DM's responsibility to challenge his or her players, especially if his or her players want something most other gamers do not because of their playstyle.</p><p></p><p>b) what is "better designed" is completely subjective, and for some reason you keep assuming your minority opinion is the one true way of what is better design. It's not. </p><p></p><p>c) WoTC didn't fail. They succeeded. Extremely well by any reasonable metric. Popularity, sales, etc.. Clearly you don't like it, but guess what? That doesn't mean they failed to provide a good game. By most accounts of the population as a whole, it's one of the best editions</p><p></p><p>d) I never said you can't criticize games. Yet another strawman because your argument holds no water. Just look at my commentary on the class satisfaction surveys a few days ago, like the sorcerer. The difference is that you do nothing <strong>but</strong> criticize not only the game, but personally attacking the developers as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So maybe, at some point, you will actually take ownership of your gaming preferences and stop demanding they cater to you or else they fail and are bad/lazy/whatever. I'm not holding my breath</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7207966, member: 15700"] No. I won't stop. This is extra rich coming from the guy who has done [i]nothing but[/i] blame WotC for literally everything about 5e since it came out. Why you even play the game or post on the 5e forum is beyond me. You do nothing but complain and blame others. Every day. Every thread. But more to the point: a) That is not what I said at all, but it's nice to see you resort to your strawmen immediately. There are many games (since we all have different preferences). It absolutely is up to the DM to tailor their game to fit their player's preferences. It's always been that way. It has to be that way when we all want different things. And a DM who refuses to bother to do that absolutely is a lazy DM. This is not assigning how lazy a DM is by how well the game fits out of the box for them. It is about a DM refusing to put the work in make the game fun for their table. It is absolutely the DM's responsibility to challenge his or her players, especially if his or her players want something most other gamers do not because of their playstyle. b) what is "better designed" is completely subjective, and for some reason you keep assuming your minority opinion is the one true way of what is better design. It's not. c) WoTC didn't fail. They succeeded. Extremely well by any reasonable metric. Popularity, sales, etc.. Clearly you don't like it, but guess what? That doesn't mean they failed to provide a good game. By most accounts of the population as a whole, it's one of the best editions d) I never said you can't criticize games. Yet another strawman because your argument holds no water. Just look at my commentary on the class satisfaction surveys a few days ago, like the sorcerer. The difference is that you do nothing [b]but[/b] criticize not only the game, but personally attacking the developers as well. So maybe, at some point, you will actually take ownership of your gaming preferences and stop demanding they cater to you or else they fail and are bad/lazy/whatever. I'm not holding my breath [/QUOTE]
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