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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7208935" data-attributes="member: 6801845">I agree. It's really hard not to just straight out face-palm when people claim that 5E is &quot;broken&quot; because the math doesn't work for their particular group.How is that supposed to work again?&nbsp; WOTC was supposed to gaze into their crystal ball and predict the exact build, structure, and layout of each particular group and then develop guidelines for that specific group?&nbsp; Have a custom XP chart for each group and send out a unique copy of the DMG?&nbsp;&nbsp; WTF?I've DMed or co-DMed for a few groups now, one which has gotten to 20, one that will get there soon (and another that never got above 10th).&nbsp; My experience with how much I can throw at the groups has varied dramatically even though I'm using the same options for both groups (point buy, all feats allowed, same books, etc).&nbsp; The &quot;A&quot; group needs a much tougher challenge, the &quot;B&quot; group I have to be careful to not TPK using the base guidelines.&nbsp; This has been true in every edition of D&amp;D.Even when running a public game using pre-canned mods I recognized which groups I could be tactically smart and which ones I had to go easy on.&nbsp; It's part of being a DM.&nbsp; Different groups will fall into a wide spectrum of effectiveness and you have to tweak your XP budget and tactics accordingly.Or of course you can just whine about how the system is broken because you can't figure out how to multiply your XP budget by x%</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7208935, member: 6801845"] I agree. It's really hard not to just straight out face-palm when people claim that 5E is "broken" because the math doesn't work for their particular group. How is that supposed to work again? WOTC was supposed to gaze into their crystal ball and predict the exact build, structure, and layout of each particular group and then develop guidelines for that specific group? Have a custom XP chart for each group and send out a unique copy of the DMG? WTF? I've DMed or co-DMed for a few groups now, one which has gotten to 20, one that will get there soon (and another that never got above 10th). My experience with how much I can throw at the groups has varied dramatically even though I'm using the same options for both groups (point buy, all feats allowed, same books, etc). The "A" group needs a much tougher challenge, the "B" group I have to be careful to not TPK using the base guidelines. This has been true in every edition of D&D. Even when running a public game using pre-canned mods I recognized which groups I could be tactically smart and which ones I had to go easy on. It's part of being a DM. Different groups will fall into a wide spectrum of effectiveness and you have to tweak your XP budget and tactics accordingly. Or of course you can just whine about how the system is broken because you can't figure out how to multiply your XP budget by [I]x[/I]% [/QUOTE]

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