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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7214049" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I don't have a problem with people saying "I think X is weak and here's how it could have been so much better." Lot's of people make arguments like that. But that's not what you do. What you do is flat out call whatever the topic is we're talking about complete garbage, and then follow it up by personally attacking the developer team and then calling anyone who disagrees with you an apologist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I made this post as a preemptive, because I knew you'd say this. So here it is again:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't believe you when you say you think 5e is the edition you prefer for just that reason. Every topic, whether it be classes, races, monsters, whatever, you always comment about how it's broken and the design team was lazy. Every one. So if 5e is your preferred edition, good lord in high heaven I can only imagine what you think of the worst edition. Tell me, how do you feel about 4e?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here's some advice. Stop accusing other people of making strawmen and then immediately make one yourself. Do you even read your own posts? Serious question? For Christ's sake, I <em>literally </em>just<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?578404-Sorcerer-Rewrite!-new-magic-system" target="_blank"> created a thread</a> a couple days ago about my distaste for the sorcerer, but unlike you, I actually proposed an actual solution in a format that can be shared with anyone who wants it. For all these problems you keep pointing out, you never actually put your money where your mouth is, and provide solutions to people in the official channels we have (DM's Guild, DTRPG, etc).</p><p></p><p>And that's by far not the only thread I've commented about my criticism of 5e. So stop with the irony before my meter explodes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Me and my ilk? WTF man. Lots of people have commented about criticisms of the game. No one ever gets into arguments with them. Why do you think that is? If it's not criticisms of the game, what do you think the common factor is in why you find yourself in so many heated arguments? Maybe it's because all you do is bash the game, personally insult the developers, and then insult anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's comments like this "You and your ilk". What is my "ilk"? Someone who points out your blatant hypocrisy? Or someone who just disagrees with you? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, the sweet irony of this statement. It's also contradictory to what you just said. I'm a fanboi because "I defend them at every turn and refuse to acknowledge any blemish" and also someone who only focuses on the bad things about the game? Make up your mind. Those are literally diametrically opposed positions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7214049, member: 15700"] I don't have a problem with people saying "I think X is weak and here's how it could have been so much better." Lot's of people make arguments like that. But that's not what you do. What you do is flat out call whatever the topic is we're talking about complete garbage, and then follow it up by personally attacking the developer team and then calling anyone who disagrees with you an apologist. I made this post as a preemptive, because I knew you'd say this. So here it is again: I don't believe you when you say you think 5e is the edition you prefer for just that reason. Every topic, whether it be classes, races, monsters, whatever, you always comment about how it's broken and the design team was lazy. Every one. So if 5e is your preferred edition, good lord in high heaven I can only imagine what you think of the worst edition. Tell me, how do you feel about 4e? Here's some advice. Stop accusing other people of making strawmen and then immediately make one yourself. Do you even read your own posts? Serious question? For Christ's sake, I [I]literally [/I]just[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?578404-Sorcerer-Rewrite!-new-magic-system"] created a thread[/URL] a couple days ago about my distaste for the sorcerer, but unlike you, I actually proposed an actual solution in a format that can be shared with anyone who wants it. For all these problems you keep pointing out, you never actually put your money where your mouth is, and provide solutions to people in the official channels we have (DM's Guild, DTRPG, etc). And that's by far not the only thread I've commented about my criticism of 5e. So stop with the irony before my meter explodes. Me and my ilk? WTF man. Lots of people have commented about criticisms of the game. No one ever gets into arguments with them. Why do you think that is? If it's not criticisms of the game, what do you think the common factor is in why you find yourself in so many heated arguments? Maybe it's because all you do is bash the game, personally insult the developers, and then insult anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's comments like this "You and your ilk". What is my "ilk"? Someone who points out your blatant hypocrisy? Or someone who just disagrees with you? Oh, the sweet irony of this statement. It's also contradictory to what you just said. I'm a fanboi because "I defend them at every turn and refuse to acknowledge any blemish" and also someone who only focuses on the bad things about the game? Make up your mind. Those are literally diametrically opposed positions. [/QUOTE]
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