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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 358118" data-attributes="member: 5890">Caliban - by your interpretation, a halfling in a sack is immune to fireballs. The sack is attended, cannot be damaged, and the halfling is wholly within the sack, therefore cannot be damaged without someone going through the sack.I'd have to say - a sack does not grant cover. It grants concealment. I'd say up until an item has a hardness and hitpoints, it grants concealment, not cover - there simply isn't anything stopping the blow or blast. Otherwise that halfling also becomes immune to attacks from weapons, at least until the sack has been destroyed (aka - on the second hit).Next up - a familiar has half the masters hitpoints. If the master succeeds at a reflex save, and takes half damage, he takes as much as his familiar would failing it's save. Obviously it's possible for the familiar to die to area effect spells before it's master.Reflex saves can still be made in restricted spaces, up to the point at which the savee cannot move. Technically they apply if you're asleep! I've got no problem with a familiar in a backpack retaining it's reflex save and hence it's improved evasion.To sum up - a familiar in your backpack is surrounded by a material with hitpoints (a quality I feel that a material should have before it can provide cover, not a hard and fast rule), and is therefore given cover by it. A familiar in a conventional pocket is not, it is merely concealed. A lightning bolt will get both the master and familiar. Both will get reflex saves to avoid/take half damage.</blockquote>

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