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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 359131" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I'm not twisting your words. You said:</p><p></p><p>"Your equipment is undamaged, and therefore anything carried inside your equipment would be undamaged."</p><p></p><p>And I said there is no such rule.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>hehehe</p><p></p><p>You crack me up.</p><p></p><p>The cover rules state that you get an AC bonus and a Reflex save bonus. It does not state that you are immune if you are being carried in a cloth sack unless the creature carrying you rolls a one on his save.</p><p></p><p>It matters not if you are using the Concealment rules, or the Cover rules. That is DM discretion. What is not DM discretion (without a house rule) is that a creature in the area effect of a spell does not need to make a save because he is being carried by another creature in a sack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, that does not mean that these items provide cover or any sort of protection.</p><p></p><p>My adventurer wears clothes, but he gets no AC or Reflex save bonus due to wearing clothes. According to your logic, if he puts completely clothes himself and jumps on a Giant's back just before a Fireball goes off, he's immune unles the Giant rolls a one on his save.</p><p></p><p>Nonsense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, but cloth sacks do not provide Total Cover. That is "Total" nonsense. We'll put you in a cloth sack and I'll hit you with a stick and we'll see if you get damaged and the sack remains undamaged. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Hehehe</p><p></p><p>The PHB indicates that Cover is under DM discretion, but that's going a little too far.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 359131, member: 2011"] I'm not twisting your words. You said: "Your equipment is undamaged, and therefore anything carried inside your equipment would be undamaged." And I said there is no such rule. hehehe You crack me up. The cover rules state that you get an AC bonus and a Reflex save bonus. It does not state that you are immune if you are being carried in a cloth sack unless the creature carrying you rolls a one on his save. It matters not if you are using the Concealment rules, or the Cover rules. That is DM discretion. What is not DM discretion (without a house rule) is that a creature in the area effect of a spell does not need to make a save because he is being carried by another creature in a sack. But, that does not mean that these items provide cover or any sort of protection. My adventurer wears clothes, but he gets no AC or Reflex save bonus due to wearing clothes. According to your logic, if he puts completely clothes himself and jumps on a Giant's back just before a Fireball goes off, he's immune unles the Giant rolls a one on his save. Nonsense. Sorry, but cloth sacks do not provide Total Cover. That is "Total" nonsense. We'll put you in a cloth sack and I'll hit you with a stick and we'll see if you get damaged and the sack remains undamaged. :) Hehehe The PHB indicates that Cover is under DM discretion, but that's going a little too far. [/QUOTE]
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