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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 359403" data-attributes="member: 284">There is a rule that says your equipment is undamaged unless you roll a 1 on your saving throw. Are you suggesting that there is a rule that says  a fireball will burn whatever is inside your equipment without touching the container itself?    Due to the rule about equipment remaining undamaged, you have to choose between fireballs that phase through your equipment to damage things inside them, or having familiars being protected by a thin layer of clothe just because it is on your body. I favor having familiars being somewhat protected.  It doesn't slow down the game, and familiars are vulnerable enough as it is. (In my opinion.)Either ruling is illogical, you just have to pick which flavor of illogic you find more acceptable.   I have offered my opinion, you have chosen to ridicule that and force your opinion on me.   No thanks KD.   *shrug*  And you are being smug, condescending, and superior. Total cover doesn't give an AC bonus or a Reflex bonus.The rules state that if you have Total cover you cannot be targeted, and cannot be damaged unless that cover is breached. *shrug*   I disagree.   You can be smug about it you want, but that is basically what it comes down to. I've laid out the logic for my position, and you have done nothing to actually refute it.  You have just made personal attacks.  If that's how you want to handle it, that's your choice. In your opinion. If that's what I said, you would be correct.  Now please stop putting words in my mouth.     The rules don't really cover different effects from bludgeoning or piercing damage, except in regard to certain creatures.   By the rules, you would have to damage the sack and create a small hole before I would take any damage.    Obviously that is not the way it works in real life, in all instances.   Certain types of materials are resistant to certain types of damage, and flexible materials will transmit most blunt  damage through them, while remaining relatively unharmed. The rules don't cover this, but then there are many grey areas the rules don't fully cover, or choose to abstract to the point where they don't really match the real world anymore.   This is one of them.However, the rules do state that your equipment is not damaged by area effects or magical effects unless you roll a 1 on your save.  It's not a logical rule, it's a game play rule.  But that is how things work in the D&D universe.   Logically,  I believe that would have the natural consequence of sparing anything inside your equipement from being damaged as well.You do not.   You think that is silly, and that people who believe that should be ridiculed and laughed at (as evidenced by your previous post).    However, your position is equally silly and illogical.  Using your interpretation,  Acid and Fire damage would pass through clothing and equipment, and burn anything inside, yet leaving your clothing and equipment unharmed. And a silly extreme example for your interpretation: If things contained in your equipment are completely vulnerable to magical attacks that you suffer,  then you should be able to delouse yourself and all your equipment with a single Flaming Sphere.   All the little mites, ticks, lice, and even smaller creatures that live on your body would be decimated by even 1st level burning hands spell.  I try respect your opinion, even when I disagree with it.   I'm willing to shrug my shoulders and accept that we handle some things differently.   You play your way and I play mine.  I do not laugh at you when I disagree with your opinion.   It is sad that you do not choose to return that courtesy. It is unfortunate that you cannot accept a differing point of view, and instead choose to act in this fashion.</blockquote>

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