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<blockquote data-quote="Relique du Madde" data-source="post: 5823827" data-attributes="member: 42169"><p>The original Confederate flag ("Stars and Bars") was a 5 star version of this flag (note more stars = more confederate states):</p><p></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/CSA_FLAG_28.11.1861-1.5.1863.svg/800px-CSA_FLAG_28.11.1861-1.5.1863.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>The flag was changed to incorporate the Confederate battle standard because of one reason: "Bull Run was confusing... every flag looked the same!"</p><p></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Second_national_flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America.svg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, too many people thought the flag was a sign of surrender ("White flags = truce!) so they added red to it because the south was not going to capitulate, they were out for blood.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Confederate_National_Flag_since_Mar_4_1865.svg/800px-Confederate_National_Flag_since_Mar_4_1865.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>Let's look at the battle standard on that flag...</p><p></p><p>The red on the flag wasn't because "they were a nation that was built on the blood of the slaves." It was because Red = Strength. It symbolized currage, blood, aggression. You know they things you want to have your army think about as they slaughter the enemy. Blue represented loyalty and some other virtues that were also used on the Union Flag. So basically yeah, they used the same ideas that went into making the union flag.</p><p></p><p>The idea of using a blue cross on the flag was based on several flags. Like South Carolina's Succession flag, and Alabama's flag... </p><p></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/SC-SovFlag.svg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Flag_of_Alabama.svg/744px-Flag_of_Alabama.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>It should be noted that originally the design of the rebel battle standard was going to be a Saint George cross based design akin to that South Caroline flag. Unfortunately, or fortunately, a prominent southern jew told the designer that would be offensive to Jews, and no southern jew in their right mind would march to war under a cross banner (you know, because of the crusades). However, since the Saint Andrew's cross looked like an "X" they figured it was alright.</p><p></p><p>(Some say it was an also meant as insult to the union because it was reminiscent of the flags flown by the English, but let's not go there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)[sblock=I went there]<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/800px-Flag_of_England.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>Note, the reversed colors!</p><p>[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Relique du Madde, post: 5823827, member: 42169"] The original Confederate flag ("Stars and Bars") was a 5 star version of this flag (note more stars = more confederate states): [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/CSA_FLAG_28.11.1861-1.5.1863.svg/800px-CSA_FLAG_28.11.1861-1.5.1863.svg.png[/img] The flag was changed to incorporate the Confederate battle standard because of one reason: "Bull Run was confusing... every flag looked the same!" [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Second_national_flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America.svg[/IMG] Unfortunately, too many people thought the flag was a sign of surrender ("White flags = truce!) so they added red to it because the south was not going to capitulate, they were out for blood. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Confederate_National_Flag_since_Mar_4_1865.svg/800px-Confederate_National_Flag_since_Mar_4_1865.svg.png[/IMG] Let's look at the battle standard on that flag... The red on the flag wasn't because "they were a nation that was built on the blood of the slaves." It was because Red = Strength. It symbolized currage, blood, aggression. You know they things you want to have your army think about as they slaughter the enemy. Blue represented loyalty and some other virtues that were also used on the Union Flag. So basically yeah, they used the same ideas that went into making the union flag. The idea of using a blue cross on the flag was based on several flags. Like South Carolina's Succession flag, and Alabama's flag... [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/SC-SovFlag.svg[/IMG] [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Flag_of_Alabama.svg/744px-Flag_of_Alabama.svg.png[/IMG] It should be noted that originally the design of the rebel battle standard was going to be a Saint George cross based design akin to that South Caroline flag. Unfortunately, or fortunately, a prominent southern jew told the designer that would be offensive to Jews, and no southern jew in their right mind would march to war under a cross banner (you know, because of the crusades). However, since the Saint Andrew's cross looked like an "X" they figured it was alright. (Some say it was an also meant as insult to the union because it was reminiscent of the flags flown by the English, but let's not go there. :P)[sblock=I went there][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/800px-Flag_of_England.svg.png[/img] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png[/img] Note, the reversed colors! [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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