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<blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 8075696" data-attributes="member: 6803664"><p>Two of the last three sessions saw the party (well, 3 of the players anyways as the other two couldn't make it the 1st two nights) perform the most ludicrous 1/2arsed infiltration of the Casalalanter (sp?) villa from DragonHeist you could imagine.</p><p>Session 1 & 3: The infiltrators were the Ex-Paladin, a Wizard (a very recent addition to the party) & a temporary character for player #3.</p><p>Total elapsed <strong>in-game time</strong> from start of bad plan infiltration plan to it all ending poorly <span style="font-size: 10px">(the Wizard fled invisibly & the temp character was dead/at 0HP)</span> & the ex-pally being arrested by the city guard/watch? 3 minutes/12 seconds.</p><p>Fortunately, when the two players who had to miss were able to return their characters were able to afford a damned good lawyer & got the ex-pallies sentence commuted. </p><p>They then headed south to my worlds version of Candle Keep to do some research concerning a few locations they intend to visit.</p><p></p><p>The 2nd session was filler material based upon events the PCs had set in motion before they headed to the villa. </p><p>Two reasons: 1) we really couldn't do much/get too far ahead of the absent players, 2) The ex-paladins player was being a dick again* & had tried his best to derail things by palming off the adventure hooks for much of Dragon Heist to the city guard/watch. This is an annoying pattern with him. He wants to 1/2ass adventures, get NPCs to do the heavy lifting/actually finish them, & for some reason gets upset when he thinks he's short xp/loot (this would solve itself if he'd go adventure...) </p><p>So in the second session I simply handed out the stat sheets for several squads of guards. Each squad was sent to investigate a different location where the PCs had determined there was a Niblewright (sp?).</p><p></p><p>Squad #1 was sent to the docks to investigate the Eyecatcher & related boats, Squad #2 to the temple, squad #3 walked in on a gang war/fight over the Galorr stone, squad #4 found themselves pitted against several of Manshoons forces in an old tower, & squad #5 arrived at the Cassalilantor villa - just as the trees in the garden exploded in a fireball (the start of the really bad infiltration plan)</p><p>Each guard squad gained XP. No PC gained anything. when the ex-pally player complained it was pointed out that he'd opted to play the role of Quest-Giver on this one, not go do the job himself.</p><p></p><p>The really interesting part came the day after the 3rd session. The x-pally player was bitching in our group chat about his lack of xp/loot, & got himself roundly criticized by several <u>players</u> for constantly hindering adventuring. That if he wants xp/loot then he'd better adventure..... To wich he tried to hide behind the good old standby of "But it's what my character would do." This got him mocked but good & pretty much given the ultimatum of "Then choose to have him do something different, or you'll need a different character".</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">* I know what this is largely about. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">He's pissy & being passive aggressive because whatever the edition, I'm a 1e DM who <strong>WILL</strong> strip Paladins/clerics/etc of their divinely granted gifts when they violate their oaths/alignments & turn away from their gods. And he's known this about me for years. And yet chose to test it & see if I really would do it.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">The answer is: Yes, yes I will.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">You do not get to say your a LG Paladin of the God of Justice - and then proceed to not play LG, not uphold justice, actively & intentionally <em>cause</em> injustice, and then to top it off, when called to task for your misdeeds, declare that you do not answer to the God of Justice. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">That God of Justice? He will not allow you to continue to sully his name & abuse the powers he's granted you.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">A quick atonement spell or such will not fix this.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Consider your resignation tendered & accepted, welcome to being a fighter. Without a sub-class. Justice has been served.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ccs, post: 8075696, member: 6803664"] Two of the last three sessions saw the party (well, 3 of the players anyways as the other two couldn't make it the 1st two nights) perform the most ludicrous 1/2arsed infiltration of the Casalalanter (sp?) villa from DragonHeist you could imagine. Session 1 & 3: The infiltrators were the Ex-Paladin, a Wizard (a very recent addition to the party) & a temporary character for player #3. Total elapsed [B]in-game time[/B] from start of bad plan infiltration plan to it all ending poorly [SIZE=2](the Wizard fled invisibly & the temp character was dead/at 0HP)[/SIZE] & the ex-pally being arrested by the city guard/watch? 3 minutes/12 seconds. Fortunately, when the two players who had to miss were able to return their characters were able to afford a damned good lawyer & got the ex-pallies sentence commuted. They then headed south to my worlds version of Candle Keep to do some research concerning a few locations they intend to visit. The 2nd session was filler material based upon events the PCs had set in motion before they headed to the villa. Two reasons: 1) we really couldn't do much/get too far ahead of the absent players, 2) The ex-paladins player was being a dick again* & had tried his best to derail things by palming off the adventure hooks for much of Dragon Heist to the city guard/watch. This is an annoying pattern with him. He wants to 1/2ass adventures, get NPCs to do the heavy lifting/actually finish them, & for some reason gets upset when he thinks he's short xp/loot (this would solve itself if he'd go adventure...) So in the second session I simply handed out the stat sheets for several squads of guards. Each squad was sent to investigate a different location where the PCs had determined there was a Niblewright (sp?). Squad #1 was sent to the docks to investigate the Eyecatcher & related boats, Squad #2 to the temple, squad #3 walked in on a gang war/fight over the Galorr stone, squad #4 found themselves pitted against several of Manshoons forces in an old tower, & squad #5 arrived at the Cassalilantor villa - just as the trees in the garden exploded in a fireball (the start of the really bad infiltration plan) Each guard squad gained XP. No PC gained anything. when the ex-pally player complained it was pointed out that he'd opted to play the role of Quest-Giver on this one, not go do the job himself. The really interesting part came the day after the 3rd session. The x-pally player was bitching in our group chat about his lack of xp/loot, & got himself roundly criticized by several [U]players[/U] for constantly hindering adventuring. That if he wants xp/loot then he'd better adventure..... To wich he tried to hide behind the good old standby of "But it's what my character would do." This got him mocked but good & pretty much given the ultimatum of "Then choose to have him do something different, or you'll need a different character". [SIZE=2]* I know what this is largely about. He's pissy & being passive aggressive because whatever the edition, I'm a 1e DM who [B]WILL[/B] strip Paladins/clerics/etc of their divinely granted gifts when they violate their oaths/alignments & turn away from their gods. And he's known this about me for years. And yet chose to test it & see if I really would do it. The answer is: Yes, yes I will. You do not get to say your a LG Paladin of the God of Justice - and then proceed to not play LG, not uphold justice, actively & intentionally [I]cause[/I] injustice, and then to top it off, when called to task for your misdeeds, declare that you do not answer to the God of Justice. That God of Justice? He will not allow you to continue to sully his name & abuse the powers he's granted you. A quick atonement spell or such will not fix this. Consider your resignation tendered & accepted, welcome to being a fighter. Without a sub-class. Justice has been served.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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