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<blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 8092948" data-attributes="member: 6803664"><p>It's not a campaign that's ending. It's the group.</p><p>Individual campaigns come & go. The "Sunday Game" has hosted at least 9-10 campaigns, some consecutively, some alternating weeks/months, dozens of short one-offs, about 7 systems, & the occasional board game sessions. Sunday evenings were when everyone in this group could get together game-wise. </p><p></p><p>It was a fatal combo of:</p><p>1) Republicans.</p><p>2) One of the other players burning out of gaming <span style="font-size: 10px">(we've all been there at some point)</span>.</p><p>3) The current DM being <em>really</em> bad at running anything but combat. Wich has accelerated #2.</p><p>4) Not enough of us left after 1 & 2. There were four of us. Now there's only two.</p><p></p><p>Explanations in reverse order;</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER]For many years (since before "The Sunday Game") the core of this group was A, B, & Ccs. Plus a variable # of others rotating in/out over the years. The three of us were friends prior to & aside from gaming.</p><p><strong>A</strong> has always been a bit of an naughty word. But it was at an acceptable degree & balanced out by others (especially <strong>B</strong>).</p><p>Summer of '18 the game was running nicely with 5 of us - then <strong>B</strong> passed away leaving the group at 4. We played throughout the fall & '19 with us four + the occasional 5th sitting in for an adventure/few weeks at a time. We were just discussing adding an additional player or two - & then 2020....</p><p>Well, 2020 has not been an ideal environment to recruit new gamers for a live game. So as we know the four of us are reasonably + staying safe (three of us work from home & one has a super low contact job) we figure we're OK to get together for a few hours each Sunday.</p><p>4 people total though doesn't offer much padding though if something goes wrong.</p><p>Current group was;</p><p>R = DM</p><p>A</p><p>Ccs</p><p>L</p><p></p><p>The current DM (<strong>R</strong>) is <em>really</em> bad at running anything but combat. And has chosen to run a PF AP where downtime & non-combat NPC interaction is a very prominent feature. I'll give him credit for trying something beyond generic combat Dungeon Crawl. But he's completely failing, resulting in a phenomenally boring campaign. The result is that we'll play half a book, some one else will run an adventure, then we'll pick up the AP again, wash rinse repeat.....</p><p></p><p>One of the players (<strong>L</strong>), the "new guy" at 5 years with the group, is suffering gaming burnout. Like I said, we've all experienced that.... It's been building for the past year. He's also rather stressed out about the pandemic & it's been tough for him to even come out of his hole. But damn it, your only social interaction cannot be waiving to the Door Dash driver!</p><p>A main campaign where 1/2 of any session is extreme tediousness + making a new character every 6-8 weeks isn't helping.</p><p>On top of that he'd just relocated last fall for his job - and now has a 40-45 minute drive. For very little payoff.</p><p></p><p>The Republicans.....</p><p>At his best, player <strong>A</strong> has never been too concerned with being on time. 15m/20m has been pretty normal over the years. Then it's been 30-45 minutes. Recently it's been 45-65 minutes....</p><p>This is easier to deal with within a larger group. Not so easy when he's 1/3 of the party.</p><p>He also often makes the most 2d mono-trick characters. Always has. As with his callous approach to timeliness this is best absorbed by a larger group.</p><p></p><p><em>But then there's his politics.</em> Like I said, player <strong>A</strong> has always been a bit of an ass. But since 2016 he's become ever more the example of all the bad things about the current Republicans. He's willfully ignorant and completely indifferent to reality/the needs of others. And he's forgotten that the place for trolling Dems/others is on-line, not at the gaming table with your friends whom you know don't share your views.</p><p>So 3/4 through the session he derails things & begins gloating about the death of RBG, spewing Republican nonsense about the epidemic, etc. (seriously, he's become about a step away from being a Bleach drinker. At this point I consider him mentally ill)</p><p>This leads to direct conflict with the DM/host & effectively ends the session.</p><p></p><p>After he's gone the DM tells <strong>L</strong> & I that he'll keep gaming with us, but not with A.... That he just can't associate with <strong>A</strong> anymore. I'm forced to concur on that.</p><p><strong>L</strong> decides that this was the final straw & that he's out & not gaming anymore <em>{my opinion: for now anyways} </em></p><p></p><p>That leaves just me & the DM. Not enough to run a decent RPG & he doesn't play miniature or board games.</p><p>So the end of the Sunday Game.</p><p>All isn't lost though. We three are still friends & will see each other. Well the DM & I will. We might have to take a road trip & dig L out of his apartment now & then. Like I said, your only interaction cannot be limited to DoorDash. I'll still see <strong>A</strong> every few weeks for Warhammer.</p><p></p><p>And I'll see if the Thur 5e group is open to another player (we've got 4.5 players atm & room at the table). If they are I'll extend the invite to the DM. None of them could make the Sunday Game, but maybe R can make it on Thur....[/SPOILER]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ccs, post: 8092948, member: 6803664"] It's not a campaign that's ending. It's the group. Individual campaigns come & go. The "Sunday Game" has hosted at least 9-10 campaigns, some consecutively, some alternating weeks/months, dozens of short one-offs, about 7 systems, & the occasional board game sessions. Sunday evenings were when everyone in this group could get together game-wise. It was a fatal combo of: 1) Republicans. 2) One of the other players burning out of gaming [SIZE=2](we've all been there at some point)[/SIZE]. 3) The current DM being [I]really[/I] bad at running anything but combat. Wich has accelerated #2. 4) Not enough of us left after 1 & 2. There were four of us. Now there's only two. Explanations in reverse order; [SPOILER]For many years (since before "The Sunday Game") the core of this group was A, B, & Ccs. Plus a variable # of others rotating in/out over the years. The three of us were friends prior to & aside from gaming. [B]A[/B] has always been a bit of an naughty word. But it was at an acceptable degree & balanced out by others (especially [B]B[/B]). Summer of '18 the game was running nicely with 5 of us - then [B]B[/B] passed away leaving the group at 4. We played throughout the fall & '19 with us four + the occasional 5th sitting in for an adventure/few weeks at a time. We were just discussing adding an additional player or two - & then 2020.... Well, 2020 has not been an ideal environment to recruit new gamers for a live game. So as we know the four of us are reasonably + staying safe (three of us work from home & one has a super low contact job) we figure we're OK to get together for a few hours each Sunday. 4 people total though doesn't offer much padding though if something goes wrong. Current group was; R = DM A Ccs L The current DM ([B]R[/B]) is [I]really[/I] bad at running anything but combat. And has chosen to run a PF AP where downtime & non-combat NPC interaction is a very prominent feature. I'll give him credit for trying something beyond generic combat Dungeon Crawl. But he's completely failing, resulting in a phenomenally boring campaign. The result is that we'll play half a book, some one else will run an adventure, then we'll pick up the AP again, wash rinse repeat..... One of the players ([B]L[/B]), the "new guy" at 5 years with the group, is suffering gaming burnout. Like I said, we've all experienced that.... It's been building for the past year. He's also rather stressed out about the pandemic & it's been tough for him to even come out of his hole. But damn it, your only social interaction cannot be waiving to the Door Dash driver! A main campaign where 1/2 of any session is extreme tediousness + making a new character every 6-8 weeks isn't helping. On top of that he'd just relocated last fall for his job - and now has a 40-45 minute drive. For very little payoff. The Republicans..... At his best, player [B]A[/B] has never been too concerned with being on time. 15m/20m has been pretty normal over the years. Then it's been 30-45 minutes. Recently it's been 45-65 minutes.... This is easier to deal with within a larger group. Not so easy when he's 1/3 of the party. He also often makes the most 2d mono-trick characters. Always has. As with his callous approach to timeliness this is best absorbed by a larger group. [I]But then there's his politics.[/I] Like I said, player [B]A[/B] has always been a bit of an ass. But since 2016 he's become ever more the example of all the bad things about the current Republicans. He's willfully ignorant and completely indifferent to reality/the needs of others. And he's forgotten that the place for trolling Dems/others is on-line, not at the gaming table with your friends whom you know don't share your views. So 3/4 through the session he derails things & begins gloating about the death of RBG, spewing Republican nonsense about the epidemic, etc. (seriously, he's become about a step away from being a Bleach drinker. At this point I consider him mentally ill) This leads to direct conflict with the DM/host & effectively ends the session. After he's gone the DM tells [B]L[/B] & I that he'll keep gaming with us, but not with A.... That he just can't associate with [B]A[/B] anymore. I'm forced to concur on that. [B]L[/B] decides that this was the final straw & that he's out & not gaming anymore [I]{my opinion: for now anyways} [/I] That leaves just me & the DM. Not enough to run a decent RPG & he doesn't play miniature or board games. So the end of the Sunday Game. All isn't lost though. We three are still friends & will see each other. Well the DM & I will. We might have to take a road trip & dig L out of his apartment now & then. Like I said, your only interaction cannot be limited to DoorDash. I'll still see [B]A[/B] every few weeks for Warhammer. And I'll see if the Thur 5e group is open to another player (we've got 4.5 players atm & room at the table). If they are I'll extend the invite to the DM. None of them could make the Sunday Game, but maybe R can make it on Thur....[/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]
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