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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9457842" data-attributes="member: 6795602">[USER=75787]@Gorgon Zee[/USER] brought forth the main points of my would be reply much more eloquently than me.&nbsp; So I’ll leave it at that.One thing I would push back on toward you both is that without a strong theory of human cognition/thought it’s hard to really say whether machines think/understand or not.&nbsp; It’s been an open question in computer science for a long time. Probably the most well known proposal to the question has been the Turing test. But even at best that would just show an amazing similarity of machine responses to human responses, something ChatGPT already amazes us with. Anyways, back to the main point.&nbsp; We really don’t understand enough about thought to properly define it in the first place. And then there’s always the possibility of conflation of human thought as the only type of thought.I mean what would a thinking machine look like, what could it do to prove it thinks. What can you do to prove you think?What does the human brain do to understand language?&nbsp; Can we even explain that?&nbsp; Etc.I think we are a long way from definitive statements on almost any of this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 9457842, member: 6795602"] [USER=75787]@Gorgon Zee[/USER] brought forth the main points of my would be reply much more eloquently than me. So I’ll leave it at that. One thing I would push back on toward you both is that without a strong theory of human cognition/thought it’s hard to really say whether machines think/understand or not. It’s been an open question in computer science for a long time. Probably the most well known proposal to the question has been the Turing test. But even at best that would just show an amazing similarity of machine responses to human responses, something ChatGPT already amazes us with. Anyways, back to the main point. We really don’t understand enough about thought to properly define it in the first place. And then there’s always the possibility of conflation of human thought as the only type of thought. I mean what would a thinking machine look like, what could it do to prove it thinks. What can you do to prove you think? What does the human brain do to understand language? Can we even explain that? Etc. I think we are a long way from definitive statements on almost any of this. [/QUOTE]

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