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<blockquote data-quote="ninjayeti" data-source="post: 9234875" data-attributes="member: 6789120">Are any games going to become a &quot;D&amp;D Killer&quot; (as some hyperbolic youtubers are dubbing Daggerheart and/or MCDM RPG)?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; However if you define success as paying your employees and keeping the lights on then I think most established RPG companies are going to do fine.I think 5E adjacent games like ToV and even PF2 will benefit from WotC adopting an exclusionary position.&nbsp; &quot;D&amp;D without the a-holes at Hasbro&quot; is pretty much the elevator pitch for ToV and the more Hasbro acts like a evil empire, the more support they are going to get, both from players and other designers supporting their systems.&nbsp; So I think those companies are going to be fine because of - rather than in spite of - WotC closing off access to D&amp;D.&nbsp; Is there ever going to be a ToV movie?&nbsp; Probably not, but Kobold does not need to hit that level of success to keep putting out quality stuff.We will see more non-D&amp;D systems from mid sized gaming companies.&nbsp; Lots of companies like Monte Cook, Modiphius, Fria Ligan, Pinnacle, Mongoose, Chaosium have been doing just fine without leaning on D&amp;D.&nbsp; Hasbro adopting unpopular business practices will only help them, although likely not as much as the more 5E-like games.&nbsp; Some are still going to fail, but it has always been thus.Where I think it will hurt is individual creators and people trying to break into the industry.&nbsp; These are the ones who have benefited from having the hobby coalesce around one game system that was open to create for.&nbsp; Having a fragmented market with with a bunch of smaller games you can create stuff for will make it more difficult (but not impossible) to succeed financially.&nbsp; MCDM got their start with Strongholds and Followers for 5E and I think building up their business around 5E has put them in a position where they can do their own thing now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ninjayeti, post: 9234875, member: 6789120"] Are any games going to become a "D&D Killer" (as some hyperbolic youtubers are dubbing Daggerheart and/or MCDM RPG)? No. However if you define success as paying your employees and keeping the lights on then I think most established RPG companies are going to do fine. I think 5E adjacent games like ToV and even PF2 will benefit from WotC adopting an exclusionary position. "D&D without the a-holes at Hasbro" is pretty much the elevator pitch for ToV and the more Hasbro acts like a evil empire, the more support they are going to get, both from players and other designers supporting their systems. So I think those companies are going to be fine because of - rather than in spite of - WotC closing off access to D&D. Is there ever going to be a ToV movie? Probably not, but Kobold does not need to hit that level of success to keep putting out quality stuff. We will see more non-D&D systems from mid sized gaming companies. Lots of companies like Monte Cook, Modiphius, Fria Ligan, Pinnacle, Mongoose, Chaosium have been doing just fine without leaning on D&D. Hasbro adopting unpopular business practices will only help them, although likely not as much as the more 5E-like games. Some are still going to fail, but it has always been thus. Where I think it will hurt is individual creators and people trying to break into the industry. These are the ones who have benefited from having the hobby coalesce around one game system that was open to create for. Having a fragmented market with with a bunch of smaller games you can create stuff for will make it more difficult (but not impossible) to succeed financially. MCDM got their start with Strongholds and Followers for 5E and I think building up their business around 5E has put them in a position where they can do their own thing now. [/QUOTE]

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