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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 9234997" data-attributes="member: 20564">I'm going to start with: this is not my bailiwick.&nbsp; I am not an expert on this, and know it.So, here's my armchair thoughts.People like to be right about big things.&nbsp; Psychologically.&nbsp; If they buy an expensive car, they will tell everyone how good the car is -- much more than if they bought a budget automobile.The people who have kickstarted will try to get their groups to play these new games.&nbsp; Some will overcome inertia of other systems and succeed.Many of these systems have something new to the market - they aren't coming from &quot;publisher first&quot; organizations, but from &quot;social media first&quot; organizations.&nbsp; At least Critical Role and MCDM.&nbsp; And that cult of personality, plus ongoing seeing it actually play, will have a different spin.&nbsp; This is where I'm firmly into &quot;guess&quot;-land.Just like core books sell better than expansions, the kickstarter fervor for the new core systems will probably be the biggest bang we hear from the majority of them.In the meantime, the idea of trying other system might facilitate more people trying RPGs that aren't the big players right now, which I think can only be for the good.&nbsp; Regardless if people stay with a different style of RPG, having experienced it and widened their horizons will benefit them in any RPG they play or run.I do expect several of them to have staying power, but that doesn't mean breaking up D&amp;D.&nbsp; The OGL debacle that spawned most of them is out-of-sight, out-of-mind - while there are Hasbro Haters out there and clickbait that will rile up against WotC, D&amp;D has a critical mass that's hard to overcome.&nbsp; I don't think the mild move to the 50th Anniversary updates of D&amp;D (or whatever you want to call it) will cause the conditions for a split like PF first stepped into.&nbsp; And without that, all it means is a bunch of competitors that will steal some players, but not at a rate that vastly outstrips new people coming into the hobby with D&amp;D.And that will leave D&amp;D as the 800 lb gorilla, with a fractional ecosystem of well-known D&amp;D-replacements feeding alongside.Again, this isn't my wheelhouse, I say all this with as the best I think about it, but with a moderate to low confidence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 9234997, member: 20564"] I'm going to start with: this is not my bailiwick. I am not an expert on this, and know it. So, here's my armchair thoughts. People like to be right about big things. Psychologically. If they buy an expensive car, they will tell everyone how good the car is -- much more than if they bought a budget automobile. The people who have kickstarted will try to get their groups to play these new games. Some will overcome inertia of other systems and succeed. Many of these systems have something new to the market - they aren't coming from "publisher first" organizations, but from "social media first" organizations. At least Critical Role and MCDM. And that cult of personality, plus ongoing seeing it actually play, will have a different spin. This is where I'm firmly into "guess"-land. Just like core books sell better than expansions, the kickstarter fervor for the new core systems will probably be the biggest bang we hear from the majority of them. In the meantime, the idea of trying other system might facilitate more people trying RPGs that aren't the big players right now, which I think can only be for the good. Regardless if people stay with a different style of RPG, having experienced it and widened their horizons will benefit them in any RPG they play or run. I do expect several of them to have staying power, but that doesn't mean breaking up D&D. The OGL debacle that spawned most of them is out-of-sight, out-of-mind - while there are Hasbro Haters out there and clickbait that will rile up against WotC, D&D has a critical mass that's hard to overcome. I don't think the mild move to the 50th Anniversary updates of D&D (or whatever you want to call it) will cause the conditions for a split like PF first stepped into. And without that, all it means is a bunch of competitors that will steal some players, but not at a rate that vastly outstrips new people coming into the hobby with D&D. And that will leave D&D as the 800 lb gorilla, with a fractional ecosystem of well-known D&D-replacements feeding alongside. Again, this isn't my wheelhouse, I say all this with as the best I think about it, but with a moderate to low confidence. [/QUOTE]

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