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<blockquote data-quote="Waldo" data-source="post: 1040634" data-attributes="member: 13316">First, I'd like to cool it down.&nbsp; I had bad day and I was feeling argumentive.&nbsp; I apologize for that.&nbsp; But... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />You keep saying this, but I don't see where this is actually stated.&nbsp; The diagram is the only place that contains &quot;Or touches&quot; and it doesn't say, &quot;The origin point isn't included&quot; nor does the text, and it doesn't show the end of the line affecting squares beyond its reach, even though the tip of the arrow reaches the other end of the last square.&nbsp; If we assume it affects any square it touches, ignoring the rest of the area rules, that would include the two squares to the side of the origin, and the square at the tip of arrow (and the caster's square, but that's obviously not the case).A line begins at an intersection, like all spells.&nbsp; You could cast it from any body part or anywhere else and the intersection is all that's important.&nbsp; Your hand probably isn't at the intersection, it's in the square somewhere.&nbsp; It's also a 5' wide path of destruction at your fingertips.&nbsp; All random things we can't really determine from rules.&nbsp; Either way, you're not acknowledging the fact that the line touches those squares and doesn't affect them.&nbsp; You're using the diagram both ways.&nbsp; It's contradictory evidence.In addition, the range of Lightning Bolt, as well and the area, is 120 feet.&nbsp; &quot;If any portion of the spell’s area would extend beyond this range, that area is wasted&quot;, so those squares at the end are out of range and aren't affected.&nbsp; I haven't found another line spell in my quick glance to see if some have larger ranges than areas.Not true.&nbsp; The line would touch the 'far side' of all of those squares.&nbsp; That's all that matters in my interpretation, since intersections count, as our diagram shows.&nbsp; The diagram doesn't show the line just meeting an intersection and then affecting the far squares.&nbsp; That's all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Waldo, post: 1040634, member: 13316"] First, I'd like to cool it down. I had bad day and I was feeling argumentive. I apologize for that. But... :) You keep saying this, but I don't see where this is actually stated. The diagram is the only place that contains "Or touches" and it doesn't say, "The origin point isn't included" nor does the text, and it doesn't show the end of the line affecting squares beyond its reach, even though the tip of the arrow reaches the other end of the last square. If we assume it affects any square it touches, ignoring the rest of the area rules, that would include the two squares to the side of the origin, and the square at the tip of arrow (and the caster's square, but that's obviously not the case). A line begins at an intersection, like all spells. You could cast it from any body part or anywhere else and the intersection is all that's important. Your hand probably isn't at the intersection, it's in the square somewhere. It's also a 5' wide path of destruction at your fingertips. All random things we can't really determine from rules. Either way, you're not acknowledging the fact that the line touches those squares and doesn't affect them. You're using the diagram both ways. It's contradictory evidence. In addition, the range of Lightning Bolt, as well and the area, is 120 feet. "If any portion of the spell’s area would extend beyond this range, that area is wasted", so those squares at the end are out of range and aren't affected. I haven't found another line spell in my quick glance to see if some have larger ranges than areas. Not true. The line would touch the 'far side' of all of those squares. That's all that matters in my interpretation, since intersections count, as our diagram shows. The diagram doesn't show the line [B]just[/B] meeting an intersection and then affecting the far squares. That's all. [/QUOTE]

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