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<blockquote data-quote="Hejdun" data-source="post: 4297442" data-attributes="member: 839">The paladin is going to get mobbed and taken down, and then it'll be open season on the softer characters.&nbsp; If you play that paladins can't Lay on Hands themselves, then they have no real way to heal themselves other than a Second Wind, which is like a tiny speed bump compared to the damage he's going to be attracting.I played a paladin in a short 2 player demo (we didn't have the full group together for our 3.5 game, so we were trying out 4e), and it's awfully easy to get mobbed to death from minions.&nbsp; 2 wizards will help with the mook sweeping, but all it takes is one bad round of rolling before the paladin gets overwhelmed and drops.&nbsp; You have to have some sort of leader helping the defender, else the defender drops very easily.I've noticed in 4e that enemies hit far more often than in 3.x.&nbsp; You're looking at lvl 2 archers getting something like +9 to hit and 1d6+4 damage, and the best AC you can possibly get at the beginning is about a 20 (plate + shield).&nbsp; It's a lot harder to shield yourself from damage in 4e, so healing is far, far more important than it was in 3.5.&nbsp; Leaders are pretty much a necessity if you want to avoid constant deaths.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hejdun, post: 4297442, member: 839"] The paladin is going to get mobbed and taken down, and then it'll be open season on the softer characters. If you play that paladins can't Lay on Hands themselves, then they have no real way to heal themselves other than a Second Wind, which is like a tiny speed bump compared to the damage he's going to be attracting. I played a paladin in a short 2 player demo (we didn't have the full group together for our 3.5 game, so we were trying out 4e), and it's awfully easy to get mobbed to death from minions. 2 wizards will help with the mook sweeping, but all it takes is one bad round of rolling before the paladin gets overwhelmed and drops. You have to have some sort of leader helping the defender, else the defender drops very easily. I've noticed in 4e that enemies hit far more often than in 3.x. You're looking at lvl 2 archers getting something like +9 to hit and 1d6+4 damage, and the best AC you can possibly get at the beginning is about a 20 (plate + shield). It's a lot harder to shield yourself from damage in 4e, so healing is far, far more important than it was in 3.5. Leaders are pretty much a necessity if you want to avoid constant deaths. [/QUOTE]

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