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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6987266" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>Both interpretations are supported because both are feasible situations.</p><p></p><p>It is <strong>not</strong> that each table has to choose which interpretation to use and stick to.</p><p></p><p>It is that whether or not the sniper needs to break cover in order to get a shot, depends on the type of cover: foliage? can shoot through the leaves without breaking cover. Sniper rifle? Can fire through an open window without having to jump through the window first! Has to open a door and move 40 feet to stab you? Not so much.</p><p></p><p>Although I think there would be general agreement about which cover allows you to shoot through it, the next examples may be more divisive: I would allow a hidden creature to quickly stand up from the cover of a low wall, and his first shot to be from hidden. I would allow a hidden archer to lean around a corner and his first shot would be from hidden. But in both cases I would only allow that at the beginning of combat. During a long combat where baddies are firing over a low wall, you know that they are there and you know they are going to pop up and shoot. But if you are not in combat (initiative/combat rounds), the first time someone breaks cover to shoot, you had no idea they were there and you weren't ready for it when they do. For me, that first shot would have advantage for attacking from hidden, even if you were un-surprised. YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 6987266, member: 6799649"] Both interpretations are supported because both are feasible situations. It is [b]not[/b] that each table has to choose which interpretation to use and stick to. It is that whether or not the sniper needs to break cover in order to get a shot, depends on the type of cover: foliage? can shoot through the leaves without breaking cover. Sniper rifle? Can fire through an open window without having to jump through the window first! Has to open a door and move 40 feet to stab you? Not so much. Although I think there would be general agreement about which cover allows you to shoot through it, the next examples may be more divisive: I would allow a hidden creature to quickly stand up from the cover of a low wall, and his first shot to be from hidden. I would allow a hidden archer to lean around a corner and his first shot would be from hidden. But in both cases I would only allow that at the beginning of combat. During a long combat where baddies are firing over a low wall, you know that they are there and you know they are going to pop up and shoot. But if you are not in combat (initiative/combat rounds), the first time someone breaks cover to shoot, you had no idea they were there and you weren't ready for it when they do. For me, that first shot would have advantage for attacking from hidden, even if you were un-surprised. YMMV. [/QUOTE]
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