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<blockquote data-quote="azmodean" data-source="post: 1991537" data-attributes="member: 26590">There is a tradeoff I believe, if you place the wall immediately in front of the target, then they wold be unable to stop before touching the wall (or even slow down), however, in both cases they are then in range to reach out and automatically disrupt the formation of the wall (I'd give them a reflex save to do it)&nbsp; The only problem with this is they would have to know that touching the wall would halt its formation, not exactly common knowledge IMO.&nbsp; Therefore I would require a knowledge(arcana) check of them in order to attempt that reflex save.On the other hand, if you put the wall out of their reach, they may have time to stop before making contact (prismatic wall complicates this by attempting to blind the target at the same time).&nbsp; A target with perfect manuverability (including a walking target) would definitely be able to stop, but a flying creature with poor or worse manuverability might have problems doing so.&nbsp; Then again, if the target is walking, you might have another spellcaster readied to cast grease under the target...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="azmodean, post: 1991537, member: 26590"] There is a tradeoff I believe, if you place the wall immediately in front of the target, then they wold be unable to stop before touching the wall (or even slow down), however, in both cases they are then in range to reach out and automatically disrupt the formation of the wall (I'd give them a reflex save to do it) The only problem with this is they would have to know that touching the wall would halt its formation, not exactly common knowledge IMO. Therefore I would require a knowledge(arcana) check of them in order to attempt that reflex save. On the other hand, if you put the wall out of their reach, they may have time to stop before making contact (prismatic wall complicates this by attempting to blind the target at the same time). A target with perfect manuverability (including a walking target) would definitely be able to stop, but a flying creature with poor or worse manuverability might have problems doing so. Then again, if the target is walking, you might have another spellcaster readied to cast grease under the target... [/QUOTE]

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