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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 1626736" data-attributes="member: 6562">In my experience (as a player and DM), I've seen more people play the BATTLE-CLERIC archtype than the CURE-BATTERY archtype.So, to balance Clerics, IMHO:- Remove Righteous Might. Maybe make it a feature of War Priest or something (spend a Turn attempt as a Swift action to get Righteous Might effect for 1 round).- Remove Divine Power. Clerical BAB is a major balancing factor. Sure, Sorc/Wiz get Mage's Transformation, but they're not often in full plate, and have half a Cleric's base HP.- Remove Heavy Armor Proficency. So they'll wear a Breastplate or Chainmail. Get in line with the Barbarian.IMC, I also remove Medium Armor proficency. My reasoning is this: if you want to be a Combat Cleric, take one level of Fighter or Paladin. It's far cheaper than what a Sor/Wiz has to go through (taking 1 level of warrior-type and then 10 levels of EK), and you can actually use the armor proficencies that you gain.In trade, I allow Clerics to spontaneously convert prepared spells into Domain spells. (Yes, I had to re-work the Domain spells to be mostly from the Cleric's own spell list, but that makes me happy in many ways -- I hated seeing every Cleric get a bunch of what should be exclusive Sorc/Wiz spells.) -- N</blockquote>