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Message: <blockquote data-quote="der_kluge" data-source="post: 1628594" data-attributes="member: 945">I like the idea of creating a couple of different varieties of Bard.  Right now, the Bard is just a one-trick pony.  It's no longer the jack-of-all-trades that it once was.I see a lot of people on here claiming that their Bard's are great diplomats, and every party should have one.  Pfeh, give me a high charisma sorcerer with ranks in diplomacy, and they could outshine a bard in that department any day.  There's really nothing unique about the bard that a sorcerer and a rogue can't already replace just as easily.I don't know if you could do that with a single class or not.  I think it might take a couple of different classes to do that.</blockquote>