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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9030899" data-attributes="member: 63508">Again the issue with Variable Abilitiies on Skill Checks is that the 5e skill list wasn't designed for it.You can't have both Acrobatics and Athletics and swap out STR or DEX.&nbsp; Same with Persuasion and Intimidate and STR or CHA.The skill list has to be designed for one or the other and will be clunky at anything else.As 5e is an entry game and designed to be beginner friendly, the best model is to just add skills that using other ability scores. Add a Browbeat or Bullying skill for Strength intimidation. An Endurance skill for marathon running, treks, and withstanding pain. A Piety skill with religious faith. A Demolition skill for Strength based BREAKIN' STUFF!5e simplified the list too much. Sure some skills needed to be downgraded to tools or combined into 1 skill. But they cut too much and expanded too little.I mean there's no Appraisal skill or Haggling skill for a game about selling raided gold, art, and gems.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 9030899, member: 63508"] Again the issue with Variable Abilitiies on Skill Checks is that the 5e skill list wasn't designed for it. You can't have both Acrobatics and Athletics and swap out STR or DEX. Same with Persuasion and Intimidate and STR or CHA. The skill list has to be designed for one or the other and will be clunky at anything else. As 5e is an entry game and designed to be beginner friendly, the best model is to just add skills that using other ability scores. Add a Browbeat or Bullying skill for Strength intimidation. An Endurance skill for marathon running, treks, and withstanding pain. A Piety skill with religious faith. A Demolition skill for Strength based BREAKIN' STUFF! 5e simplified the list too much. Sure some skills needed to be downgraded to tools or combined into 1 skill. But they cut too much and expanded too little. [B]I mean there's no Appraisal skill or Haggling skill for a game about selling raided gold, art, and gems.[/B] [/QUOTE]

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